Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

[freakyfreaky]

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She met a primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church and claimed she met the prime minister. Come on. If she saw Bako Sahakian she'd probably say see met Bean who forgot his toupe.

I mean she met Archbishop Hovnan Derderian and she represented that she met the prime minister of Armenia. She doesn't even know the identity of local Armenian demagogues. Its obvious that before 2009 she had never met or seen the primate as she could not properly identify him after having her photo taken with her. She's a vapid tool.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tAHE3je2P-4/SYWm2YttxlI/AAAAAAAAJ7Q/YeWnfmxb9vM/s400/Kim+Kardashian+and+Armenian+church+charity+event_Armenian+Reporter_31Jan09.jpg

[Armanen]

Re: Add the kardashians to the famous Armenian section's description

Kim's Grandmother?

Scary!

[Mos]

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As far as her being the only thing people will think of when they hear "Armenian" it's better her than nothing.

So you rather Armenians be associated with a dumb wh*re than not be known? Why make things worse when it can be neutral?.

Also I said I know she and her family are using their roots just to sell themselves, but it can be a symbiotic relationship as opposed to a parasitic one if we allow it to.

It is parasitic because they are exploiting a Armenian identity they have no right to.

As far as her actually stop using the name as a gimmick idk if that day will ever come, but I do agree that she'll eventually try to reinvent herself as time goes on by becoming more Armenian. She always says that she wants to do an Armenia trip with all her siblings, mom, etc, but things keep getting in the way (like Khloe and Lamar getting their own show that will air later this year), with all their different schedules but she hopes that they eventually can all do it.

I hope Armenian Government is smart enough to deny those idiots visas. I had read something years ago that said show producers wanted to film their trip to Armenia as they believe it would be like "Borat 2". So really their trip to Armenia would be so that they could mock Armenia and our people, in order for some cash. F*ck them - the only place they deserve to be is in the black ghettos of America.

[KanadaHye]

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Kim's Grandmother?

[Siggie]

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@ Siggie,

I'm not saying that we shouldn only associate ourselves with the Kardashian clan, by all means we will stil mention Cher and Aznavour and whoever else, I'm just saying that along with those famous Armenians we should also mention the Kardashians.

No one under the age of 30 cares about Cher, and most people in the English speaking world don't know or care about Aznavour. Even most sports fans don't care about Agassi, and with him you have Iranians and Assyrians saying he's their nationality too, and with Kirkorian, it's only us armos and business people who know or care about him. We need people to reach all demographics, and the Kardashian's certainly can reach people that other notable Armenians can't. The purpose of this site isn't just for Armenians to come talk, it's a public forum, everyone can read anything posted here without registering, and the site turns up in google searches so it's not just Armenians and the random middle easterner on here,

So maybe when a Kim fan who's googling "Kim Kardashian Armenia" or "Where is Armenia" or "Is Kris Jenner Armenian?" will accidentally come across this site, see the Kardashian name and be curious enough to wander through the forums pages, maybe even to the AG boards. This same reason applies on why I want "System of A Down" to be in the famous Armo section as opposed to Andre Agassi or Kirk Krikorian.

They'll get hits anyway from content. It's not going to add any to have them in the subforum description, but whatever... Create a poll with the most popular people (w/ multiple responses) and put it to a vote. I'll put like the top 4 or 5 in the subforum description.

[KanadaHye]

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and lastly about the bishi

I guess "bishi" is just a generic term used by Armenians for some kind of fried dough pastry in a sugar syrup. The only one I've known is the one my mom makes which is a ball of fried dough in a sugar syrup w/o any cinnamon, I think there's also some rose water in the syrup. I don't know where the word bishi comes from though, it doesn't seem to be Turkish or Arabic from what I gather, but if it's Armenians it's strange that many Armenians haven't heard of it or use some other word to describe the same thing.

I think the term "bishi" comes from India. I know Indians also call cheese "paneer".

Only other thing that would make sense is Mitsu-Bishi. Bishi means "water chestnut" and I suppose fried dough balls would look like water chestnuts but how would Armenians have come to use that term....

I was reading the Kardashian sisters were making an Armenian pancake.They called it BeeShee. Here is what Kourtney wrote maybe you can find and post the recipe as I have googled beeshee to no avail and she says she will not share the recipe as it's a family secret.

" 'making my famous Armenian breakfast called Beeshee. My grandmother on my dad’s side taught me how to make it and I am the only person in our family who knows how. You have to make it the night before, let the dough rise, and then prepare it in the morning, which Khloe always does. So we do it together as a team effort haha. Because it is a bit of a process, we only make it on special occasions, and every year for Father’s Day, my dad would ask us to make him Beeshee…and of course we always did. It is so delicious and fattening! It’s basically like a thin, crispy fried pancake that you pour tons of sugar on.’
Thanks”

http://www.thearmeniankitchen.com/20...-armenian.html

[ara87]

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@ Siggie,

I'm not saying that we shouldn only associate ourselves with the Kardashian clan, by all means we will stil mention Cher and Aznavour and whoever else, I'm just saying that along with those famous Armenians we should also mention the Kardashians.

No one under the age of 30 cares about Cher, and most people in the English speaking world don't know or care about Aznavour. Even most sports fans don't care about Agassi, and with him you have Iranians and Assyrians saying he's their nationality too, and with Kirkorian, it's only us armos and business people who know or care about him. We need people to reach all demographics, and the Kardashian's certainly can reach people that other notable Armenians can't. The purpose of this site isn't just for Armenians to come talk, it's a public forum, everyone can read anything posted here without registering, and the site turns up in google searches so it's not just Armenians and the random middle easterner on here,

So maybe when a Kim fan who's googling "Kim Kardashian Armenia" or "Where is Armenia" or "Is Kris Jenner Armenian?" will accidentally come across this site, see the Kardashian name and be curious enough to wander through the forums pages, maybe even to the AG boards. This same reason applies on why I want "System of A Down" to be in the famous Armo section as opposed to Andre Agassi or Kirk Krikorian.

@Kan

When I said she knows more than some Armos who are 100% blood Armo, I didn't mean by a lot, but I'm sure that somewhere in the diaspora there's at least a few hundred full blooded Armenians who know less than or only just as much as Kim.

As far as her tweets go she has a contract to get paid around 10,000 every time she tweets for "Ad.ly." an online ad company, and she tweets about things like rebook and carls burgers for them.

She doesn't get paid when she tweets about other things like who she's going to hang out with her sisters, or when she posts about Armenian issues. I'm glad you pointed that she gets paid though b/c I didn't know it until just now, but it backs up my point even more b/c if a company things that a single post of 140 characters from Kim's twitter account is worth 10 grand what does that say about how many people they think she has an influence on?

As far as her being the only thing people will think of when they hear "Armenian" it's better her than nothing.

Also I said I know she and her family are using their roots just to sell themselves, but it can be a symbiotic relationship as opposed to a parasitic one if we allow it to.

As far as her actually stop using the name as a gimmick idk if that day will ever come, but I do agree that she'll eventually try to reinvent herself as time goes on by becoming more Armenian. She always says that she wants to do an Armenia trip with all her siblings, mom, etc, but things keep getting in the way (like Khloe and Lamar getting their own show that will air later this year), with all their different schedules but she hopes that they eventually can all do it.

I'm pretty sure that they'll do a trip sometime in the near future though and try to air it on tv though whether it'll be part of Keeping Up With the Kardashian's or it's spinoffs or some other networks primetime schedule idk.

I think if they want to use it for any of their shows on "E" it'll be a short trip and taped in a comedic light and not be serious, but if Kim wants to save it and use it to reinvent herself I could see it being aired on ABC or something and it would have a more serious tone



and lastly about the bishi

I guess "bishi" is just a generic term used by Armenians for some kind of fried dough pastry in a sugar syrup. The only one I've known is the one my mom makes which is a ball of fried dough in a sugar syrup w/o any cinnamon, I think there's also some rose water in the syrup. I don't know where the word bishi comes from though, it doesn't seem to be Turkish or Arabic from what I gather, but if it's Armenians it's strange that many Armenians haven't heard of it or use some other word to describe the same thing.

[KanadaHye]

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@ara87

First off she knows very little about Armenia, I don't know where you are getting that she knows more about Armenia, Armenian culture than other Armenians. After all she's grown up in an American household with american values. If she hadn't maybe she wouldn't have turned into a prostitute. And she also gets paid for tweeting so it's BS that she somehow is helping Armenians - she can go and shove her tweets somewhere else - she has done more harm than good to Armenians, as now uninformed people only think of that wh*re when they hear the word "Armenians" - it's disgusting.

When she stops using the Armenian label as a gimmick and genuinely begins taking her influence seriously, then perhaps majority of Armenians will change their views. However, I think it'll be a cold day in hell if that ever happens. Although, it might happen as she ages, the media drops her and she tries to reinvent herself just to remain in the spotlight.

[Mos]

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@ara87

First off she knows very little about Armenia, I don't know where you are getting that she knows more about Armenia, Armenian culture than other Armenians. After all she's grown up in an American household with american values. If she hadn't maybe she wouldn't have turned into a prostitute. And she also gets paid for tweeting so it's BS that she somehow is helping Armenians - she can go and shove her tweets somewhere else - she has done more harm than good to Armenians, as now uninformed people only think of that wh*re when they hear the word "Armenians" - it's disgusting.

[KanadaHye]

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She's even mentioned that Helen got them addicted to "bishi" which is like loukoumades (some Armenians eat this, others have no clue what it is. I think it's a western Armenian thing) She's also talked about lahmajun, which she says is her favorite Armenian food.

Never heard of "bishi". Sounds like those elephant ears that you get at fairs... fried dough with sugar/cinnamon on top.

http://www.thearmeniankitchen.com/20...n-zeppoli.html

http://www.food.com/recipe/armenian-...e-bishi-179060