Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

No Saco jan, not with whoever they want. I don't think men or women should sleep with whoemever they want. But I gather a great deal of men doing that before they get married then it becomes a very bad habit for them and then they continue that bad habit after their marriage and they start screwing their wives and their CHILDREN royally by doing that. Because children feel very bad too - they feel they are rejected and then one day when they grow up they will do the same. The bad cycle will continue. I think that when a man and a woman fall in love they should first find out if they are really compatible to each other, "kaghaparagan antsik en adonk te voch" and then cohabitate and get married. Otherwise that union will not be heaven but HELL.

I guess my comments above was an outbrust and anger towards our society's "double standard" that choose to give cart blanche to the men to cohabitate with as many women as they want before and after a marriage, then if a girl just flirts a little they "name call" her and say bad things about her and label her like she is sent from hell. It's very unjust and the "double standard" and the "unfairness" makes me throw up quite frankly!!!!

1.) That is what Saco has been saying all along.

2.) Do tell, who are these men sleeping with? Sheep? Or other women? Hmmm

Notice the entire time I've been talking about assimilation of cultures. And this is not our Armenian culture but the culture that men have adapted from America, Russia, Europe, etc. which are the dominant cultures surrounding our communties.

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

With their husband or with whoever they want?



I think I'm misunderstanding you guys. Are we talking about a girl falling in love with one man and going out with him, etc.? Or are we saying that Armenian girls should be free to roam around like in the US? Because if that's what you guys are saying (I doubt it) then I have a few things to say!

No Saco jan, not with whoever they want. I don't think men or women should sleep with whoemever they want. But I gather a great deal of men doing that before they get married then it becomes a very bad habit for them and then they continue that bad habit after their marriage and they start screwing their wives and their CHILDREN royally by doing that. Because children feel very bad too - they feel they are rejected and then one day when they grow up they will do the same. The bad cycle will continue. I think that when a man and a woman fall in love they should first find out if they are really compatible to each other, "kaghaparagan antsik en adonk te voch" and then cohabitate and get married. Otherwise that union will not be heaven but HELL.

I guess my comments above was an outbrust and anger towards our society's "double standard" that choose to give cart blanche to the men to cohabitate with as many women as they want before and after a marriage, then if a girl just flirts a little they "name call" her and say bad things about her and label her like she is sent from hell. It's very unjust and the "double standard" and the "unfairness" makes me throw up quite frankly!!!!

[KanadaHye]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I don't think they should abolish marriage and it's laws. If there are criminals in the world (this is a mean example, lol) should all laws be abolished? Of course not.

Who determines what's right or wrong? Who makes the laws that govern our behaviour and control how we think? Think about that.

I just think couples should stop lying to each other! If they understand that they can't move on together anymore then they should just stop doing what they're doing ... OR ... work everything out which is the more responsible method of getting things done. Giving up is always the easiest route but it's those who strive and endeavor that win in the end! No one said marriage was/is going to be easy.........

The art of seduction is based on lies. How can you stop a cycle of lies?

[Sako]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I have no problems with this as long as they abolish marriage and its laws. Why should anyone be made guilty for having to act against their feelings and desires when their wife is no longer participating in the act. It takes two to tango.

I don't think they should abolish marriage and it's laws. If there are criminals in the world (this is a mean example, lol) should all laws be abolished? Of course not.

I just think couples should stop lying to each other! If they understand that they can't move on together anymore then they should just stop doing what they're doing ... OR ... work everything out which is the more responsible method of getting things done. Giving up is always the easiest route but it's those who strive and endeavor that win in the end! No one said marriage was/is going to be easy.........

[KanadaHye]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Firstly though historically you got female warriors too, also how is that relevant to today, why can't a woman freely make love like a man?

Huh? You mean with an external attachable appendage?

That's right and after she does make love freely though, society shouldn't make her feel guilty or bad. In an Armenian perspective that's what they make a female feel. Not good, but in Armenia today some females started protesting against that by digging apples in the soil. Women have feelings and deep desires too and if they feel deep love towards a man, well I think even Armenian society should start changing and accepting it, che?

I have no problems with this as long as they abolish marriage and its laws. Why should anyone be made guilty for having to act against their feelings and desires when their wife is no longer participating in the act. It takes two to tango.

See Pedro, the dark ages are just around the corner

That's ok though, soon we'll all be slaves to India and China since they still have somewhat functional societies.... good times, good times.

[Sako]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Firstly though historically you got female warriors too, also how is that relevant to today, why can't a woman freely make love like a man?

With their husband or with whoever they want?

That's right and after she does make love freely though, society shouldn't make her feel guilty or bad. In an Armenian perspective that's what they make a female feel. Not good, but in Armenia today some females started protesting against that by digging apples in the soil. Women have feelings and deep desires too and if they feel deep love towards a man, well I think even Armenian society should start changing and accepting it, che?

I think I'm misunderstanding you guys. Are we talking about a girl falling in love with one man and going out with him, etc.? Or are we saying that Armenian girls should be free to roam around like in the US? Because if that's what you guys are saying (I doubt it) then I have a few things to say!

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

I know that, iFemale once again is an example, and Siggie, who can smack the sh*t out of anyone who messes with her

Firstly though historically you got female warriors too, also how is that relevant to today, why can't a woman freely make love like a man?

That's right and after she does make love freely though, society shouldn't make her feel guilty or bad. In an Armenian perspective that's what they make a female feel. Not good, but in Armenia today some females started protesting against that by digging apples in the soil. Women have feelings and deep desires too and if they feel deep love towards a man, well I think even Armenian society should start changing and accepting it, che?

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

TV, Movies, Internet, Hollywood.... Pop culture



I think this comes from the culture of a warrior where before going into battle, the man would experience being with a woman before he enters a conflict that might end his life. And those who returned alive would come back to raise families.



If you think a woman with discipline and self esteem is quiet and docile... I can show you a couple Armenian women that would beat you down to the last inch of your life if you laid a hand on them And yes, otherwise they can be quite charming



Good question.... please see the "what is love" thread since nobody has found an answer to that question yet.

I know that, iFemale once again is an example, and Siggie, who can smack the sh*t out of anyone who messes with her

Firstly though historically you got female warriors too, also how is that relevant to today, why can't a woman freely make love like a man?

[Anoush]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Now how can any man not keep running back to that.

Now that's what I say Eddo jan!!!

[Eddo211]

Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

Eddo jan, from a male perspective you summed it up reeeaaaaal good. That's exaclty what males expect and want from a woman. A strong minded, intelligent woman with a lot of confidence and self esteem to be real feminine and very sexy but with a lot of goodness, kindness, understanding, compassion and a helfpful attitude towards their male lovers, boyfriends or husbands. Then they shall keep their men who will come to them running every night? Probably?

Now how can any man not keep running back to that.