Learning Armenian from Armenian people

[Lucin]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Not sure, never heard of it.... something racist I'm guessing. Must have been taken from Farsi. I know bosh means "empty" in Turkish which gets used a lot by Armenians instead of "barab".

No, it's not Farsi. It must be something Arevmtahays use, so Turkish or Arabic.

Mersi Lucin jan, I really am excited because I have improved my Armenian so much that I am surprised seriously surprised And great part of it is thanks to you!! Thanks very very very very....much Lucin jan!!!

No, the great part goes back to you and your efforts.

I have looked there ain't many about such terms, hum do you recomend me some particular dictionary? Not only for those terms but in general?

I recommend what Pedro recommended.

Lucin jan, could I ask you what is the use of "մէջ"? I have discovered, I think, is like "in" or "at"....i.e. Երևանի մեջ is like "in/at Yerevan"? However, I have heard the word at other times and I think in other instances...how is it?

When you say "Երեւանի մէջ" you want to insist that it's inside/ within Yerevan and not in surrounding areas. For "Երեւանում", in Yerevan sounds more correct. And there is no such thing as "at Yerevan".

Also, following with the places...how do I say "in" "on" and "at"? For example to say "in the table", "on the table" and "at home"?

There is no distinction between in and at in Armenian. Depending on the word, you can use –ում (սենեակում) or –ը (տանը). On the table would be "սեղանի վրայ".

And the last thing Lucin, hehe...how do I say "by" when used in songs? For example if I want to say ("Dle Yaman" by Nune Yesayan)?

We usually say, Նունէ Եսայեանի՝ կատարմամբ or կատարում է Նունէ Եսայեանը if she is the performer. If it's a composer/ creator you'd rather say Ստեղծագործութիւն՝ Պարոյր Սեւակի.

Thank you Lucin very very much, whenever I can speak decently in Armenian I'll make you a recording thanking you

Great! Thanks.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Learning Armenian from Armenian people

Oh, so I guess I'll have to learn persian as well


Thanks Lucin, I already have Gini Lits'...hope someday I can take the lyrics out myself



And I'll be more than happy to teach you



I agree, Nune honors those songs! Specially I love how she sings "Ashkharums imn dun is" and "Kamancha", besides "Kani vur jan im"

Hum, a little question? In the song "Kani vur jan im" (sorry I love that song ), at one of the final lines:

Թաք դուն բաղչէն գաս՝ անիս մասնէ մաս քու Սայեաթ Նովուն

Why does he says his name? Is he actually saying his name? Or is a reference to something else? I have always wondered that

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Oh and something I am kinda ashamed of asking Lucin , I think personally that one of the things you've got to know of a language is the "swear words", "bad words" and so on...because, as I always say...if I am between friends in England and something falls on my feet, I am not gonna say "Oh that hurts!"

So...haha , could you please teach me the basic swear words on Armenian?

Hehe sorry for asking, I am red haha
Thanks for everything Lucin!

Mi amigo, you want insults, join us in the chat, the moment everyone heard I was learning Armenian, I was told that I have to learn the insults, I can post a few dirty words here, dunno if it will be censored or not, a good person to ask is Sero (Pazooki), that dude knows insults and swear words my dictionary has no clue existed.

[ashot24]

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The joke is supposed to be funny because the only two people left in the room were Armenian even though neither of the two were qualified for the job showing that both of their mentalities were the same. Armenians think alike.

Oh so I just was understanding it wrong, sorry I am not good for jokes I have a hard time understanding them so I pretty much finding most of them not funny

But he who laughs at last laughs the best right?

[KanadaHye]

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Haha I knew it was something strange, because I didn't found funny that joke Thanks Lucin and KanadaHye!

The joke is supposed to be funny because the only two people left in the room were Armenian even though neither of the two were qualified for the job showing that both of their mentalities were the same. Armenians think alike.

[ashot24]

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People do not start learning a language by swearing unlike you. I believe he is doing an amazing job and soon will speak better and more correct than some natives..

Mersi Lucin jan, I really am excited because I have improved my Armenian so much that I am surprised seriously surprised And great part of it is thanks to you!! Thanks very very very very....much Lucin jan!!!

You may look them up in an English-Armenian dictionary. I think it can help.

I have looked there ain't many about such terms, hum do you recomend me some particular dictionary? Not only for those terms but in general?

LOL, these are all vulgar expressions used by Western Armenians. I have heard them but I don't know exactly what they mean and I highly doubt that they have an Armenian origin. "Pezevenk" for sure is Turkish, it seems to be referred to a crook man metaphorically but in essence it means a "pimp". "Indores?" seems to be common in Polsahye dialect meaning "inchpes es?" in EA. Maybe Federate or other Arevmtahye speakers can give us a more accurate definition.

Haha I knew it was something strange, because I didn't found funny that joke Thanks Lucin and KanadaHye!

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Lucin jan, could I ask you what is the use of "մէջ"? I have discovered, I think, is like "in" or "at"....i.e. Երևանի մեջ is like "in/at Yerevan"? However, I have heard the word at other times and I think in other instances...how is it?

Also, following with the places...how do I say "in" "on" and "at"? For example to say "in the table", "on the table" and "at home"?

And the last thing Lucin, hehe...how do I say "by" when used in songs? For example if I want to say ("Dle Yaman" by Nune Yesayan)?

Thank you Lucin very very much, whenever I can speak decently in Armenian I'll make you a recording thanking you

[KanadaHye]

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Okay, now what does 'poosht' mean?

Not sure, never heard of it.... something racist I'm guessing. Must have been taken from Farsi. I know bosh means "empty" in Turkish which gets used a lot by Armenians instead of "barab".

[Lucin]

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No, you're doing just fine Lucin.... might I point out that Bolsahye's swear in Turkish.

Okay, now what does 'poosht' mean?

[KanadaHye]

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People do not start learning a language by swearing unlike you. I believe he is doing an amazing job and soon will speak better and more correct than some natives..



You may look them up in an English-Armenian dictionary. I think it can help.




LOL, these are all vulgar expressions used by Western Armenians. I have heard them but I don't know exactly what they mean and I highly doubt that they have an Armenian origin. "Pezevenk" for sure is Turkish, it seems to be referred to a crook man metaphorically but in essence it means a "pimp". "Indores?" seems to be common in Polsahye dialect meaning "inchpes es?" in EA. Maybe Federate or other Arevmtahye speakers can give us a more accurate definition.

No, you're doing just fine Lucin.... might I point out that Bolsahye's swear in Turkish.

[Lucin]

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Mukuch does not do charity on Tuesdays
If one does not know even how to swear in his mother tongue no one can help him….

People do not start learning a language by swearing unlike you. I believe he is doing an amazing job and soon will speak better and more correct than some natives..

haha why? I am trying to learn Armenian by myself, I lacked parents to teach me hehe and I don't think any book out there will be like "dictionary of offensive terms in ......", it would be cool though

You may look them up in an English-Armenian dictionary. I think it can help.

hey Lucin jan! vonts es?
I have a little questions Lucin, have you heard that joke about Harut and Bill Gates? At the end of the joke I quite don't get what they say
What does this part means?

Calmly, Harout turns to the other candidate and says to him: "Parev pezevenk, indores?"...

The other candidate answers: "Lav em poosht."

LOL, these are all vulgar expressions used by Western Armenians. I have heard them but I don't know exactly what they mean and I highly doubt that they have an Armenian origin. "Pezevenk" for sure is Turkish, it seems to be referred to a crook man metaphorically but in essence it means a "pimp". "Indores?" seems to be common in Polsahye dialect meaning "inchpes es?" in EA. Maybe Federate or other Arevmtahye speakers can give us a more accurate definition.

[ashot24]

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Mukuch does not do charity on Tuesdays
If one does not know even how to swear in his mother tongue no one can help him….

haha why? I am trying to learn Armenian by myself, I lacked parents to teach me hehe and I don't think any book out there will be like "dictionary of offensive terms in ......", it would be cool though

well, thanks man I will see how I can teach myself those terms, I saw there is a slang thread here and found interesting things

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hey Lucin jan! vonts es?
I have a little questions Lucin, have you heard that joke about Harut and Bill Gates? At the end of the joke I quite don't get what they say
What does this part means?

Calmly, Harout turns to the other candidate and says to him: "Parev pezevenk, indores?"...

The other candidate answers: "Lav em poosht."

Thanks Lucin!