Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[gegev]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Precisely why only rich, white folk should reproduce and everyone else either farm the fields or pull the wagons. Or fight wars for the rich white folks. Good plan.

Exactly!!!
Good plan.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

It is funny to me how you guys call yourself religious chrystians yet your practices resemble more muslim teachings. The planet we live on can only sustain so many people and controling the human population is important so that we dont destroy our planet and ourselves.

Precisely why only rich, white folk should reproduce and everyone else either farm the fields or pull the wagons. Or fight wars for the rich white folks. Good plan.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You're still not picking up what I'm putting down. You are making an ASSUMPTION that those who do behave this way are doing so because of Western influence. You have not provided any evidence to support this claim.

Further, it would appear that by the existence of such Yerevanci women that the status quo which you seek to preserve no longer exists anyway.

So are they doing it because Armenian culture has turned upside down in a matter of a few years? Throughout the decade, Western influence in Armenia has increased and so have those type of people. This all provides very good evidence for that. More and more there have been clashes between such liberal, Western values and the more conservative values to protect. A great example of this was that protest in the summer of patriot Armenians against such "diversity" people, who were concerned that such people are bringing such degenerate Western values into Armenian society. Materialism is a common feature among some of those Yerevanci women that you see. Some are on the edge between their Armenian values and this new European way of life, others firmly in either camp. It's a problem. I mean just imagine when a mother taking her kid out, dresses so vulgar, you would confuse her for prostitute. Is this the filth we need?

As far as Ahmagh-dinejad oo abadet goes, I ask his stupid @ss for some evidence too. A scrap of it to show that the populace in those countries or its politicians believe that purity, honesty, integrity, compassion, and self-sacrifice are not desirable values. Just because someone is quoted saying something, doesn't mean the content of what they're saying is true. E.g. There are no gays in Iran.
Obama can stand in front of a mic at a press conference and announce that the sky is purple with pink polkadots and be quoted saying so by thousands of journalists in thousands of news sources, but it won't change the color of the sky.

Well I'm referring to his particular statement, not about if there are gays or not in Iran. He makes some really good points though regarding the institution of family being under attack, or the decaying of historical, pure cultures. He's right though about those principles lacking in leaderships. Maybe a bit idealistic, as you can't expect much from politicians in general, but he makes a good point. When religion is more integrated in your society though, in governance and common society, those principles can be advanced and valued more than in heavily secular society.

The fact that you have to resort to quoting Islamic leaders to find people who echo your beliefs says a lot about how extreme those beliefs are and further strengthens the comparisons that other members have already drawn to Islamic fundamentalism, the Taliban, etc.

My beliefs are in no way extreme nor Islamic. Conservative Christian culture exists in many places, not just Armenia, and there are many Armenians that also believe that our traditional values need to be protected, and these foreign liberal values rejected.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Well not all Yerevanci women are acting like that. You have a small portion that are acting like that as a result of such influences. I'm arguing that in protecting our existing value system (which those women are violating) we will make sure the majority of our society doesn't delve into such foreign lifestyles. There's nothing circular in what I am saying. If those minority of Armenian women didn't exist (that are adopting such lifestyles) this message wouldn't really be relevant.

I don't normally quote from politicians, but Ahmadinejad of Iran, today made a good point on the cultural situation in world:

You're still not picking up what I'm putting down. You are making an ASSUMPTION that those who do behave this way are doing so because of Western influence. You have not provided any evidence to support this claim.

Further, it would appear that by the existence of such Yerevanci women that the status quo which you seek to preserve no longer exists anyway.

As far as Ahmagh-dinejad oo abadet goes, I ask his stupid @ss for some evidence too. A scrap of it to show that the populace in those countries or its politicians believe that purity, honesty, integrity, compassion, and self-sacrifice are not desirable values. Just because someone is quoted saying something, doesn't mean the content of what they're saying is true. E.g. There are no gays in Iran.
Obama can stand in front of a mic at a press conference and announce that the sky is purple with pink polkadots and be quoted saying so by thousands of journalists in thousands of news sources, but it won't change the color of the sky.

The fact that you have to resort to quoting Islamic leaders to find people who echo your beliefs says a lot about how extreme those beliefs are and further strengthens the comparisons that other members have already drawn to Islamic fundamentalism, the Taliban, etc.

[Haykakan]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Your words are properly polished and each has its own meaning separately , but somehow, when you put them together, the whole thing doesn't carry even a tiniest organized idea/meaning, regarding the subject under discussion, my dear philosopher; "arajadem datarkaxos"! Therefore let me ignore the words.

In the end that is what hetamnats people do best-[B]ignore[B]reality and make up their own dreamworld which never existed and never will.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Well, it's part circular and it's part mismatched/nonsensical.

Your argument(s?): Women today are (going to be?) corrupted by the West. I'm not arguing that we should change anything, just preserve the existing Armenian value system.

Q: What evidence do you have that "western ideals" corrupt and produce the behaviors you're complaining about when even the Hayastanci women who should have more traditional Armenian values are worse in that regard than the Diasporans?

Your answer: Yerevanci women are behaving that way because of the western influence!

Well not all Yerevanci women are acting like that. You have a small portion that are acting like that as a result of such influences. I'm arguing that in protecting our existing value system (which those women are violating) we will make sure the majority of our society doesn't delve into such foreign lifestyles. There's nothing circular in what I am saying. If those minority of Armenian women didn't exist (that are adopting such lifestyles) this message wouldn't really be relevant.

I don't normally quote from politicians, but Ahmadinejad of Iran, today made a good point on the cultural situation in world:

b) The Cultural Situation:

From the standpoint of the politicians who control the world power centers,
concepts such as moral principles, purity, honesty, integrity, compassion and selfsacrifice are rejected as defunct and outdated notions, and an impediment to the
accomplishment of their goals. They openly talk about their disbelief in the relevance
of ethics to the political and social affairs.

Pure and indigenous cultures as the product of centuries - old efforts of
nations, the common denominator reflecting human profound feeling and love
towards beauties, and the force which breeds diversity, cultural vividness, and social
dynamism, are under constant attacks, and susceptible to extinction.

A specific life style devoid of individual or social identity is being imposed
on nations by organized and systematic destruction and humiliation of identities.
Family as the noblest institution of societies and a center emanating love and
humanity has been seriously weakened and its constructive role is on the decline.
Woman's sublime role and personality, as a heavenly being, a manifestation
of divine image and beauty, and the main pillar of every society, has been damaged
and abused by the powerful and the wealthy.

Human soul has become frustrated and the essence of humankind humiliated
and suppressed.

[gegev]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Kanadahye-hetamnats means someone who sticks to only what they know and refuses to learn anything new including things that will help him/her. Hetamnats people will actually use many of the things modern society provides yet still argue that these things are evile etc.. kind of like your relationship with science.
Gegev as usual your argument regarding this and similar matters runs into a brick wall because it simply does not make any sense. It is funny to me how you guys call yourself religious chrystians yet your practices resemble more muslim teachings. The planet we live on can only sustain so many people and controling the human population is important so that we dont destroy our planet and ourselves. As for Armenia her demographic problems stem from the poor economic/social conditions which lead to mass exidus which follows previous mass exidus because of the same reasons and war. As for the western states one can argue that bringing down their own population is the responcible thing to do and should be done by more countries untill a sustainable level is reached.

Your words are properly polished and each has its own meaning separately , but somehow, when you put them together, the whole thing doesn't carry even a tiniest organized idea/meaning, regarding the subject under discussion, my dear philosopher; "arajadem datarkaxos"! Therefore let me ignore the words.

[Haykakan]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Kanadahye-hetamnats means someone who sticks to only what they know and refuses to learn anything new including things that will help him/her. Hetamnats people will actually use many of the things modern society provides yet still argue that these things are evile etc.. kind of like your relationship with science.
Gegev as usual your argument regarding this and similar matters runs into a brick wall because it simply does not make any sense. It is funny to me how you guys call yourself religious chrystians yet your practices resemble more muslim teachings. The planet we live on can only sustain so many people and controling the human population is important so that we dont destroy our planet and ourselves. As for Armenia her demographic problems stem from the poor economic/social conditions which lead to mass exidus which follows previous mass exidus because of the same reasons and war. As for the western states one can argue that bringing down their own population is the responcible thing to do and should be done by more countries untill a sustainable level is reached.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

In what way? I'm point out the obvious when it comes to some Yerevanci women.

Well, it's part circular and it's part mismatched/nonsensical.

Your argument(s?): Women today are (going to be?) corrupted by the West. I'm not arguing that we should change anything, just preserve the existing Armenian value system.

Q: What evidence do you have that "western ideals" corrupt and produce the behaviors you're complaining about when even the Hayastanci women who should have more traditional Armenian values are worse in that regard than the Diasporans?

Your answer: Yerevanci women are behaving that way because of the western influence!

[gegev]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

You still dont get it. It will not matter who is reproducing more effectively when overpopulation will destroy our world. In the end does it matter if the last person on earth to die is white, black , brown, or orange? If the traditional values you speak of mean having lots of kids then it is that traditional value that will doom humanity thus either way your argument makes no rational sense. You are basically saying o look the muslims are like the lemmings running the fastest to suicide dive off the cliff so lets join them.

Thus you scientifically proved that the overpopulation will destroy our world. And the nationalities that have been able to reproduce themselves, as opposed to the extinguished western ones, will die too.

Therefore there is no need to think about prevention of the western indigenous population from extinction. And no need to talk about Armenian "hetamnats" population at all.

And your only consolation is: "it doesn't matter if the last person on earth to die is white, black , brown, or orange?"