How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Then stop going out of your way to protect the poor joos. They are doing just fine without having another neo con or whiny liberal advocating for them. And it has been clearly shown that zionists, for the most part, are anti-Armenian, yet you continue to protect them which is rather sad.

Tell me, how the hell was I protecting them in that post? Saying that all ethnic groups pursue their self interest is all of a sudden pro-Zionist?

And you didn't address any of my points - tell me what did I say that was false?

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Then stop going out of your way to protect the poor joos. They are doing just fine without having another neo con or whiny liberal advocating for them. And it has been clearly shown that zionists, for the most part, are anti-Armenian, yet you continue to protect them which is rather sad.

I agree with you; it's strange behavior that he spends all of his time on this forum doing that. Very, very, very strange.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I agree with you; it's strange behavior that he spends all of his time on this forum doing that. Very, very, very strange.

And once again, how did I defend them in my previous post. Show me a quote that shows my support for Zionism.

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Tell me, how the hell was I protecting them in that post? Saying that all ethnic groups pursue their self interest is all of a sudden pro-Zionist?

And you didn't address any of my points - tell me what did I say that was false?

No one is saying they are wrong per se for looking out for their interests, but we are talking about zionists who are not an ethnic group. Anyone can be a zionist. My point is that zionism, more often than not, has been and continues to be anti-Armenian therefore it is sick that any Armenian would defend their actions. There are good and bad joos as in any ethnic group, I am not debating this. What I have said is that zionism is an enemy of Armenia and Armenians, and you keep bring up the joos. Yes, many of the zionists are jooish, but not all joos adhere to the principles of zionism. What is so hard to understand here?

It is not that you are saying false things, it is that you are constantly protecting zionists or at the very least are confusing zionism with joos, and vic versa.

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

And once again, how did I defend them in my previous post. Show me a quote that shows my support for Zionism.

You do not show the same disdain for zionism as you have for turks and azeris, which one would think you would if you understood that zionism has traditionaly been aligned against Armenia and its interests.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Sounds about right. Khazars were Turkic and after the fall of their (J3wish) empire, they would have mixed with surrounding people since the Khazar empire was never to be seen again.

Kanada-jan: The Aliyev clan call themselves "Khazars" ... they own up to it. I'm sure the other groups within his borders don't appreciate it ... but they're pushing everyone in that direction. Everyone also has to call themselves "Azerbaijani" - a term without real meaning. He's also imported Turks from central asia - likely to staff his army.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

No one is saying they are wrong per se for looking out for their interests, but we are talking about zionists who are not an ethnic group. Anyone can be a zionist. My point is that zionism, more often than not, has been and continues to be anti-Armenian therefore it is sick that any Armenian would defend their actions. There are good and bad joos as in any ethnic group, I am not debating this. What I have said is that zionism is an enemy of Armenia and Armenians, and you keep bring up the joos. Yes, many of the zionists are jooish, but not all joos adhere to the principles of zionism. What is so hard to understand here?

It is not that you are saying false things, it is that you are constantly protecting zionists or at the very least are confusing zionism with joos, and vic versa.

I never defended Zionists. I was refuting the claim that some people have made, that all j3ws are against Armenians, and so on. Zionists, if they do something anti-Armenia, f*ck them, they do something good for us, than good for them. Yes they have been anti-Armenian when needed because in order to fulfill their interests we or our issues stood in their way. or being friends with the Turks was beneficial to their interests. Thus Friend of my enemy is my enemy.

That being said, I am not going to equate Zionists to Turks/Azeris because they don't belong in the same category. You cannot equate the help of some Zionists to the Turks, with what the Turks and Azeris have done to us the past centuries.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

And once again, how did I defend them in my previous post.

All the hallmarks of a pattern-excuse-maker for 'the chosen ones' .... (Do you want more examples?)
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Do you have proofs that everyday Israelis are actively supporting Azerbaijan? You really think Israel supports Azerbaijan because they like Azeris?

Religious J3ws spit on everybody who is not a religious J3w. They don't specifically target Armenians.

Judaism has not done what Islam has done to the Middle east.

Saying that J3ws are responsible for the Genocide of Armenians is absurd and has no legitimate historic backing.

P.S. Azeris didn't do anything to Armenians in *past centuries* -- the Armenian problems with "the Republic of Azerbaijan" is recent (at earliest starting from Stalin's time) - certainly not from "past centuries" (emphasis on the plural). Are you sure you are aware of the history?

That being said, I am not going to equate Zionists to Turks/Azeris because they don't belong in the same category. You cannot equate the help of some Zionists to the Turks, with what the Turks and Azeris have done to us the past centuries.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I was asking specifically from my previous post.

I was referring to both Turks and Azeris, since for Turks it was centuries, I just let the plural form stay.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I never defended Zionists.

I could sense anti-Semitism in his tone "go associate with some J-ews". ... No, my friends are Israeli, I know very well the difference, between the Israelis and just regular J-ews.

So the "Israelis that [you] are friends with" would be the "Zionists" and you "know very well the difference between the Israelis and the regular J-ews," correct? And the Israeli-Zionists that you are "friends with," are the same people you "have never defended"?

hmmmmmmm ..... okay

Mos, since you can also sense anti-semitism "from tone," I'll also give you a Pinocchio Prize.