How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Mos]

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Start by looking into who runs newspapers and the media in every country, including Saudi Arabia. This one low key article should give you a clue as to why it's a low key article and independent media is a rarity.

But how does the presence of J3ws in media point to the conclusion that they are trying to control to world and/or brainwash white people? In Russia, the construction business is under the hands of Armenians, are we trying to take over Russia and its infrastructure? Or have we just been successful in that sector and been valued for our high level of work in that business thus taken it over? When I say evidence I mean showing that a reputable and large J3wish organisation has stated that their main goal is the brainwashing of white folks and bringing the world more under their control. Making such rash conclusions doesn't prove anything - there has to be direct evidence. And I know a thing of two about the dangers of extrapolation.

[KanadaHye]

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But how does the presence of J3ws in media point to the conclusion that they are trying to control to world and/or brainwash white people? In Russia, the construction business is under the hands of Armenians, are we trying to take over Russia and its infrastructure? Or have we just been successful in that sector and been valued for our high level of work in that business thus taken it over? When I say evidence I mean showing that a reputable and large J3wish organisation has stated that their main goal is the brainwashing of white folks and bringing the world more under their control. Making such rash conclusions doesn't prove anything - there has to be direct evidence. And I know a thing of two about the dangers of extrapolation.

Do you have any influence on how people think by building homes? Newspapers, literature and the media is where people get their knowledge, points of view and opinions which in turn affects how people think.

Was Hrant Dink a threat to Turkish nationalism because he was armed and dangerous?

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Do you have any influence on how people think by building homes? Newspapers, literature and the media is where people get their knowledge, points of view and opinions which in turn affects how people think.

Was Hrant Dink a threat to Turkish nationalism because he was armed and dangerous?

I was simply making an example of how an extrapolation can lead to widely differing conclusions. Again, J3ws will have their propaganda, Arabs will have theirs, and so on. . Again, every country, every group has their nationalists, as their "side of the story", you make it seem like it's only j3ws that are capable of this - no everyone has done, and everyone continues to do it. All of it will be skewed, it's up to the individual to find the truth - sift through the biased information, and be a critical thinker. If not they will fall victim to the proganda of their country let that be Western bias, Arab bias, or Russian bias, etc.

Hrant Dink was killed by a deranged fanatical Turk. Don't know how this ties into propaganda though.

[KanadaHye]

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I was simply making an example of how an extrapolation can lead to widely differing conclusions. Again, J3ws will have their propaganda, Arabs will have theirs, and so on. . Again, every country, every group has their nationalists, as their "side of the story", you make it seem like it's only j3ws that are capable of this - no everyone has done, and everyone continues to do it. All of it will be skewed, it's up to the individual to find the truth - sift through the biased information, and be a critical thinker. If not they will fall victim to the proganda of their country let that be Western bias, Arab bias, or Russian bias, etc.

Hrant Dink was killed by a deranged fanatical Turk. Don't know how this ties into propaganda though.

Some can be critical thinkers because they know more than what they are taught by school, the newspapers and the media. Not everyone has that luxury. I don't know what a Canadian national is since Canada was made up of immigrants but I can tell you the local papers and the media is owned by J3ws. Really, what reason does Canada have to promote anti Iranian propaganda in the media?

[Mos]

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Recent development:

New! Code Share Agreement with Armavia Airlines




We are pleased to inform you that EL AL now has a code share agreement with Armarvia (U8), the national carrier of Armenia.

As of March 31, 2011, Matmid Frequent Flyer Club members can earn points on code share flights with Armavia on the
Tel Aviv – Yerevan – Tel Aviv flight segments, conditional on the flight being operated with the EL AL (LY) code.

The same number of points is accumulated on these flights as on the
Tel Aviv – Cairo/ Athens (A Zone) – Tel Aviv flight segments operated by EL AL.

The first flight from Israel to Armenia will depart on March 31, 2011. The route will offer two weekly flights – on Thursday and Sunday. The flights will land at the airport of Armenia’s capital city, Yerevan.

[KanadaHye]

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Israeli political strategist displeased by Armenian commentators



Yerevan/Mediamax/. Political strategist and blogger David Eidelman stated that none of the members of the Israeli delegation, which visited Azerbaijan, spoke of intended Genocide of J3ws by Armenians in 1918.

Mediamax reports that David Eidelman, who visited Azerbaijan on March 27-31 within a group of Israeli journalists and political strategists, said this in an interview to IzRus portal.

Commenting on publications in Armenian press, David Eidelman said that representatives of the Azerbaijani side did not make such statements either.

According to him, there are no grounds to speak of intended Armenian ethnic cleansings against J3ws in 1918. “Neither official Azerbaijan, nor Azerbaijani historians, and not even journalists and political strategists, who had arrived from Israel, has said that. Why do Armenian commentators argue among themselves, attributing to their opponents judgments, which they have made up themselves?” David Eidelman stated.

http://mediamax.am/en-news-102-495.html

[Persopolis]

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Has the Islamic republic of Iran recognized the Armenian genocide on a state level? Is that such a difficult question?

I know the answer and I also know you can not xxxxx about the Us doing the same thing, I as an Armenian can do that but not one from a country that hasn't recognized itself and you don't even dare to say that they are wrong for not recognizing it.

The wrongs of Israel and the Us don't excuse the wrongs of Iran.

PS the Us as a state from 1915-1922 has done as much, even more than Iran, and they took in more Armenians than Iran did.

I will answer everyone of your questions in detail, as soon as you answer mine. Hurry up Karo, let's see if you're a man or a mouse.

[Armanen]

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But how does the presence of J3ws in media point to the conclusion that they are trying to control to world and/or brainwash white people? In Russia, the construction business is under the hands of Armenians, are we trying to take over Russia and its infrastructure? Or have we just been successful in that sector and been valued for our high level of work in that business thus taken it over? When I say evidence I mean showing that a reputable and large J3wish organisation has stated that their main goal is the brainwashing of white folks and bringing the world more under their control. Making such rash conclusions doesn't prove anything - there has to be direct evidence. And I know a thing of two about the dangers of extrapolation.

Mos, are you one of those people that really needs to see something with their eyes and told 1000 times something before you may believe it? Put the pieces together. While I am not saying there is a jooish/zionist conspiracy, they do dominate in the field of media and film, and this has been used to further pro-zionist causes. When you also know that zionism, for whatever reasons, is also aligned against Armenia's interests, then you can deduce certain things. No zionist or joo is going to give you a call and explain their plans. I think you, like most people, have grown up hearing all the sap stories from the jooish genocide and the propaganda about israel found on american news channels that it is so hard for you to accept that overall, the joos that matter, are zionists, and zionists have goals which have often run counter to those of the Armenians and Armenia. Can you accept this much or will you make excuses again?

[Lucin]

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2. Iran gave Armenians refuge and safety during the Genocide: ("Thousands of Armenians had escaped to Iran during the genocide." A History of the Armenian People Volume II, George A. Bournoutian Prof. of Armenian History, Columbia Univ.) While Iran gave protection, food, shelter, and opportunity to Armenians fleeing the Turkish pogroms what did the U.S. do? Nothing.

a) Incidentally, why don't you, and others like you, cut the crap: Have you thanked Iran, or were your parents one of those Armenians that got up and fled without helping Iranians when Iraq tried to invade Iran? Or did you grow up in one of those homes where your parents forgot to tell you that the reason many Armenians are alive today is because of Iran? Which is it Karo?

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Oh really? How about those tens of thousands of Iranians who chose to flee to Turkey, Europe or Southern California instead of defending their motherland? How about those who went and will still go at any length to escape the military service? Why should an average Iranian-Armenian act so differently? Armenians of Iran have done/do more than any religious minority to contribute to the prosperity of Iran on different levels; social, economic, cultural...

While I do not agree here with Karo (a recognition means little to Armenia today), I think you sometimes spoil your healthy, intelligent approaches to different matters by such unbalanced statements deriving from a 'superiority' complex which is a result of an underlying inferiority complex.

In any case, Armenia and Iran like in the past will continue to have cordial relations based on mutual interests, regardless of the Genocide 'recognition'. In today's political atmosphere Iran's recognition of the Genocide would not have much significance, in my opinion.

[Persopolis]

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Yes that exactly what I am talking about...

Typical anti-semite propaganda.... very cheap by the way....

1. Is it "anti-semitic propaganda" to object to a grown man defend an the ancient J*wish custom of performing oral sex on little boys (which goes on today)?

2. Is it "anti-semitic propaganda" to object to the Israeli military killing people, including small kids, to steal their internal organs? Do you know of another military that does this?

3. Is it "anti-semitic propaganda" to object to Israel affirmatively blocking recognition of Armenian Genocide in other countries for money?

4. Is it "anti-semitic propaganda" to object to Israel building a country on top of the land of other people for 60 years, and engaging in 60 years of war crimes through the use of American weapons on a captive population held in the world largest out-door prison (Gaza)?