How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Mukuch]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

[QUOTE=Persopolis;310603]THOUGHTS ON ISRAEL:

IF ANYONE WANTS THESE VIDEOS DELETED, LET ME KNOW. HOWEVER, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THEM. AND PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT I PERSONALLY VERIFIED THAT EACH OF THESE VIDEOS WAS MADE BY ISRAEL ON BEHALF OF AZERBAIJAN (THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM TO SPREAD ANTI-ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA). YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE VIDEOS SAYS "INFOLIVETV" -- THAT'S AN ISRAELI COMPANY. [QUOTE]

This videos are made by Israely Azeries.... there are 100s of thousands xxxs from Azerbajan living in Israel.... I do not know how xxxes this people are but they continiu to be turks for sure

[Persopolis]

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This thread is being used for open Anti-Israely (Anti-Semite) propaganda..... many things posted hear are pure exageration...
In my opinion despite Israel being not friendly state to Armenia it is still a very good ROLE MODEL for an Armenian state.

Do you think "anti-Israeli" and "anti-semitic" are the same thing? Should we invent a work called "anti-TURKite" that means we can't criticize the Turks? Please tell me in detail what anti-Semitism is, and whether the vast majority of Israeli-J*ws are semites?

If Armenia wants to become like Israel, it needs steal US & Russian technology (like Israel does); and obtain a cummulative 3 Trillion USD in foreign aid, including billions in free military hardware and grants ... Israel was NOT built from J*wish grandmas selling bowls of Motzah-ball soup.

This videos are made by Israely Azeries.... there are 100s of thousands xxxs from Azerbajan living in Israel

So we should criticize and discuss their "Azeri-background" but not their "J*wish-background"? How does that make any sense?


WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE SUBJECT TO ANTI-SEMITISM? WHICH ONES RULE ISRAEL, THE SEMITES?

[Mos]

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This thread is being used for open Anti-Israely (Anti-Semite) propaganda..... many things posted hear are pure exageration...

In my opinion despite Israel being not friendly state to Armenia it is still a very good ROLE MODEL for an Armenian state. I admire Israel as a state for xxxs. If Armenians would be able do for their state 10% of what xxxs have done I would be simply happy...

There's already a thread for anti-Semitic propaganda. Yeah some people claim here that all J3ws are against Armenians and want to take our lands. The naive level of some people is just laughable

Talking about learning from Israel, a Armenian Military commission was set up to specifically study Israel's army and how some of what they do in the army can be incorporated into Armenian army.

We should also strengthen our lobby groups in USA and Russia - so they can give us more money and weapons.

[Mukuch]

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@Persopolis

As much as I love our Persian brothers, and I hope you are one of them, I cant tolerate any hatered towards J-ews just for being J-ews. You are trying to create a confusion messing with religion and ethnos. Yes there is Judaism and there are ethnic J-ews... most of the Judaists are ethnic j-ews but of cours there are some exeptions... so please stop this it is pointless... comparing J-ews to tueks? how posible? J-ews are the one of oldest civilizationes in the world not less important than Persians are, when turks are mongols. And J-wes never come close to what turks did.... So please stop it.

[KanadaHye]

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Mukuch, try reading the post below if you haven't already. People of Khazaria (a J3wish state.... a kingdom of Judaism if you will) were responsible for Armenia's loss of independence. They invaded Armenia and it's evident there are elements both in Israel and Azerbaijan who are working together against Armenia. There are probably still elements in Armenia and around the world who have taken on Armenian last names. So what is wrong with discussing history?

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....ht=#post309255

[KanadaHye]

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If Armenia wants to become like Israel, it needs steal US & Russian technology (like Israel does); and obtain a cummulative 3 Trillion USD in foreign aid, including billions in free military hardware and grants ... Israel was NOT built from J*wish grandmas selling bowls of Motzah-ball soup.

Well, first the technology and wealth was exported to US and Russia from Germany... then after creating the Israeli state, they began transferring the technology to Israel.

[Persopolis]

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Well, first the technology and wealth was exported to US and Russia from Germany... then after creating the Israeli state, they began transferring the technology to Israel.

Fair enough; Please have a look at this one also.

[Persopolis]

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This is a follow-up to Post #202 Regarding the Khazar take-over of Azerbaijan:

Article Excerpted to Show Common Points to Post #202. Read in full here: http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/sep...s-nationworld/

The Associated Press
Published: September 21, 2008

MOSCOW - A Russian archaeologist says he has found the lost capital of the Khazars, a powerful nation that adopted Judaism as its official religion more than 1,000 years ago, only to disappear and leave little trace of its culture.

The Khazar empire was once a regional superpower, and Vasilyev said his team has found "luxurious collections" of well-preserved ceramics that help identify cultural ties of the Khazar state with Europe, the Byzantine Empire and even Northern Africa. They also found armor, wooden kitchenware, glass lamps and cups, xxxelry, and vessels for transporting precious balms dating back to the eighth and ninth centuries, he said.

He said his dig revealed traces of a large fire that probably dates from the Russian conquest. He said Itil was rebuilt after the fall of the Khazar empire, when ethnic Khazars were slowly assimilated by Turkic-speaking tribes, Tatars and Mongols, who inhabited the city until it was flooded by the rising Caspian Sea around the 14th century.

KHAZAR EMPIRE

•The Khazars were a Turkic tribe that roamed the steppes from Northern China to the Black Sea.

•The Khazars' ruling dynasty and nobility converted to Judaism sometime in the 8th or 9th centuries.

•The study of the Khazar empire was discouraged in the Soviet Union. The dictator Josef Stalin, in particular, detested the idea that a xxxish empire had come before Russia's own. He ordered references to Khazar history removed from textbooks.

Source: The Associated Press

[Persopolis]

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Interesting video I found. (Note: The first video I found was removed by youtube as soon as I posted it here; here's another one.)

Note: some other historians give different motives for the participation of the crypto-j*ws in the AG (e.g., they wanted to take over Armenian businesses and objected to Christians).

[Persopolis]

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Excerpted From: Jimmy Johnson, The Electronic Intifada, 28 March 2011
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11880.shtml

"Most of the world recognizes Azerbaijani sovereignty over Nagorno-Karbakh, but it is a de facto independent state pending the conclusion of Armenian-Azerbaijani negotiations. Turkey and Israel were two of Azerbaijan's primary supporters in the conflict. The US embassy cable notes that Israeli-Azerbaijani relations are 'discreet but close.' This was put concisely by Israeli President Shimon Peres during a June 2009 visit to Baku: "You bring the oil, we'll bring the ability and technology" ("Azerbaijan: Aeronautics and Shikun & Binui in large contracts," Globes, 28 June 2009). By 2009, Azerbaijan was providing between 25-40 percent of all Israeli oil imports. Israel helped re-equip the Azerbaijani forces immediately after the Nagorno-Karbakh war. And the neoconservative Middle East Quarterly notes that more recently, "Israeli firms built and guard the fence around Baku's international airport, monitor and help protect Azerbaijan's energy infrastructure, and even provide security for Azerbaijan's president on his foreign visits" ("Israel and Azerbaijan's Furtive Embrace," Summer 2006). Since 2005, Israel has sold surface-to-air missiles, rocket launchers, communications equipment, drones, mortars, ammunition military satellites and more. Israeli firms have upgraded Azerbaijan's Soviet-era T-72 tanks and installed a public surveillance system in the capital of Baku. Just last week a factory constructed by Israeli firm Aeronautics Defense Systems began producing surveillance drones. The 2009 cable notes, "Much like Israel, Azerbaijan perceives Iran as a major, even existential security threat."

In my opinion no sane Armenian should ever support Israel again under these facts; had Iran and Russia not helped Armenia, there would have been no Armenia, or at best, Armenians would have become the "New Palestinians."