How does everyone feel about Israel?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

If Armenia wants to become like Israel, it needs steal US & Russian technology (like Israel does); and obtain a cummulative 3 Trillion USD in foreign aid, including billions in free military hardware and grants ... Israel was NOT built from J*wish grandmas selling bowls of Motzah-ball soup.

Well, first the technology and wealth was exported to US and Russia from Germany... then after creating the Israeli state, they began transferring the technology to Israel.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Mukuch, try reading the post below if you haven't already. People of Khazaria (a J3wish state.... a kingdom of Judaism if you will) were responsible for Armenia's loss of independence. They invaded Armenia and it's evident there are elements both in Israel and Azerbaijan who are working together against Armenia. There are probably still elements in Armenia and around the world who have taken on Armenian last names. So what is wrong with discussing history?

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....ht=#post309255

[Mukuch]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

@Persopolis

As much as I love our Persian brothers, and I hope you are one of them, I cant tolerate any hatered towards J-ews just for being J-ews. You are trying to create a confusion messing with religion and ethnos. Yes there is Judaism and there are ethnic J-ews... most of the Judaists are ethnic j-ews but of cours there are some exeptions... so please stop this it is pointless... comparing J-ews to tueks? how posible? J-ews are the one of oldest civilizationes in the world not less important than Persians are, when turks are mongols. And J-wes never come close to what turks did.... So please stop it.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

This thread is being used for open Anti-Israely (Anti-Semite) propaganda..... many things posted hear are pure exageration...

In my opinion despite Israel being not friendly state to Armenia it is still a very good ROLE MODEL for an Armenian state. I admire Israel as a state for xxxs. If Armenians would be able do for their state 10% of what xxxs have done I would be simply happy...

There's already a thread for anti-Semitic propaganda. Yeah some people claim here that all J3ws are against Armenians and want to take our lands. The naive level of some people is just laughable

Talking about learning from Israel, a Armenian Military commission was set up to specifically study Israel's army and how some of what they do in the army can be incorporated into Armenian army.

We should also strengthen our lobby groups in USA and Russia - so they can give us more money and weapons.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

This thread is being used for open Anti-Israely (Anti-Semite) propaganda..... many things posted hear are pure exageration...
In my opinion despite Israel being not friendly state to Armenia it is still a very good ROLE MODEL for an Armenian state.

Do you think "anti-Israeli" and "anti-semitic" are the same thing? Should we invent a work called "anti-TURKite" that means we can't criticize the Turks? Please tell me in detail what anti-Semitism is, and whether the vast majority of Israeli-J*ws are semites?

If Armenia wants to become like Israel, it needs steal US & Russian technology (like Israel does); and obtain a cummulative 3 Trillion USD in foreign aid, including billions in free military hardware and grants ... Israel was NOT built from J*wish grandmas selling bowls of Motzah-ball soup.

This videos are made by Israely Azeries.... there are 100s of thousands xxxs from Azerbajan living in Israel

So we should criticize and discuss their "Azeri-background" but not their "J*wish-background"? How does that make any sense?


WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE SUBJECT TO ANTI-SEMITISM? WHICH ONES RULE ISRAEL, THE SEMITES?

[Mukuch]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

[QUOTE=Persopolis;310603]THOUGHTS ON ISRAEL:

IF ANYONE WANTS THESE VIDEOS DELETED, LET ME KNOW. HOWEVER, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THEM. AND PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT I PERSONALLY VERIFIED THAT EACH OF THESE VIDEOS WAS MADE BY ISRAEL ON BEHALF OF AZERBAIJAN (THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM TO SPREAD ANTI-ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA). YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE VIDEOS SAYS "INFOLIVETV" -- THAT'S AN ISRAELI COMPANY. [QUOTE]

This videos are made by Israely Azeries.... there are 100s of thousands xxxs from Azerbajan living in Israel.... I do not know how xxxes this people are but they continiu to be turks for sure

[Mukuch]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

This thread is being used for open Anti-Israely (Anti-Semite) propaganda..... many things posted hear are pure exageration...

In my opinion despite Israel being not friendly state to Armenia it is still a very good ROLE MODEL for an Armenian state. I admire Israel as a state for xxxs. If Armenians would be able do for their state 10% of what xxxs have done I would be simply happy...

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I don't recognise the illegal state of Israel. I refer to it as the "land formerly known as Palestine".

THOUGHTS ON ISRAEL:

IF ANYONE WANTS THESE VIDEOS DELETED, LET ME KNOW. HOWEVER, I THINK YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF THEM. AND PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT I PERSONALLY VERIFIED THAT EACH OF THESE VIDEOS WAS MADE BY ISRAEL ON BEHALF OF AZERBAIJAN (THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM TO SPREAD ANTI-ARMENIAN PROPAGANDA). YOU WILL NOTICE THAT ONE OF THE VIDEOS SAYS "INFOLIVETV" -- THAT'S AN ISRAELI COMPANY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlB5oaNo46o&feature=related

[Persopolis]

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I moved the posts about Armenia, Iran and drugs to the appropriate thread http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....ted-in-Armenia While the topics often converge, I want to remind everyone that the thread is mainly about Israel and let us try to bring the topic back to its original one.

Thank you for shifting the topic to the appropriate section. A few notes about Israeli/Armenian relations:

RE: POST #40 BY MOS (OFF-TOPIC PROSTITUTION VIDEO ABOUT IRAN) -- THE REAL TITLE OF THIS THREAD IS "Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?" (It was subsequently moved - because Mos took it on an anti-Iran tangent.)

1. I'm not suggesting that there are no prostitutes in Iran (certainly much fewer than in the USA & most western countries), but the video above is of 2 heroin addicted refugee-prostitutes from Afghanistan and Kurdistan who are refugees in Iran (Why? Because of U.S. wars and the free-flow of heroin from Afghanistan permitted by the USA). You can walk down any street in the USA, Russia, Canada, France, etc. and find Heroin addicted prostitutes. Nevertheless, it is widely reported that per capita Israel and the UAE are the biggest traffickers of women - including Armenian women.

2. Iran punishes people that traffic in women -- far more seriously than the USA. A few years back, it was discovered that several Iranian women were kidnapped in the UAE, and the Iranian government told the UAE it would invade them and reduce them to rubble if those women were not repatriated. Promiscuity-&-drugs are staple and welcome features of traditional American society - not traditional Iranian society (a higher % of women in Iran have college degrees than in the U.S. - an astronomically higher % of women in the USA are prostitutes and drug addicts).

3. You will see the title of the thread is: "HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT ISRAEL?" -- a video slandering Iran has nothing to do with that topic (as posted by Mos). Nevertheless, That video was funded by pro-Israeli sources in the UK to slander Iranians (it totally masks who funded the video and the true nationality of the prostitutes in the video). The fact that an "Armenian" (Mos) CONSTANTLY posts information to try to cast Iranians in a bad light on an Armenian forum is something the Turks, Azeris, & Israelis would PAY HIM to do. Out of all the countries with whom Armenia shares a border - ONLY Iran historically has defended Armenians: The government of Armenia called Iran its "only lifeline" during NK war when it was blockaded on ALL borders and faced an existential threat. Out of the border countries, in history, Iran defended Armenians from several attempted Turkish massacres, gave refuge to Armenians during the genocide, and assisted Armenians with flourishing within the Persian empires (Armenia's lands were 3 times the size they were at that time, no Genocide was permitted to occur, and Armenian's formed an important part of EVERY society in Iran for centuries -- there live 250-300 thousand Armenians in Iran today). Anyone, that posts videos like the one above is not only an enemy to Iranians - but an enemy to Armenians. Like I said, the Turks would love to get 80 million Iranians (200 million worldwide) to hate Armenians -- if that happened Armenia would no longer exist -- and Mos REPEATEDLY is attempting to create this dynamic. What I fear, is that some young Iranian will come along, see Mos's posts, and start making countless web pages in favor of Azerbaijan, listing every Armenian who has been a prostitute or assist the Azeris in fighting Armenia. Anyone that doesn't have clear vision as to Mos endangering Armenians -- should wake up: The biggest danger I personally have seen to Armenians on this forum is Mos (he is by far worse than some of the most rampant Turkish bloggers). The vast majority of posts I have seen from Mos on this forum are pushing a pro-Israeli agenda - not a pro-Armenian agenda.

4. The bottom line about Israel is that they supply weapons to the Azeris to kill Armenians; the Israelis have a culture of spitting on Armenians in Palestine; the Zionist-J*ws were co-architects of the Armenian Genocide, and have VIGOROUSLY helped the Turks censor recognition of the Armenian Genocide since World War 1 (every MAJOR J*wish organization has helped in that effort). Anyone that thinks that Israelis are a friend to Armenians needs to have their head examined.

PROSTITUTION BY ISRAEL IS THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA OF ANY NATION - INCLUDING THE FORCED SEX SLAVERY OF ARMENIAN & RUSSIAN WOMEN:

"Israel's sex slaves: Israel of all places has turned into international center of modern-day slavery," By Roni Aloni-Sadovnik (Israeli author on Ynet news). Many of the kidnapped women are of Russian and Armenian origin.

http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/israel.htm
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-b...8/04/07/p24611

"Ten Thousand Women Held in Israel as Sex Slaves." By: Dave Cooper.
http://us.altermedia.info/news-of-in...-year_797.html

"Israel's sex trade booming: Human trafficking in Israel rakes in more than USD billion a year, findings in annual parliamentary survey show." By Miri Hasson (Ynet / Israeli News):
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...062297,00.html

Mazel tov! I am sure unchecked Israeli businessmen in Armenia will do wonders for the Armenian economy!

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

INTERESTING STORIES AND BLOGS ABOUT ISRAELI/ARMENIAN RELATIONS:

http://www.armeniablog.org/2007/11/x...rosses-in.html

The Jerusalem Post reports another incident of a pious xxx spitting at Christian clergy or symbols in the Israeli-occupied Old City of Jerusalem. According to Holocaust survivor Dr. Israel Shahak, in his book xxxish History, xxxish Religion, this practice has ancient roots and has become increasingly commonplace:

"Dishonoring Christian religious symbols is an old religious duty in Judaism. Spitting on the cross, and especially on the Crucifix, and spitting when a xxx passes a church, have been obligatory from around AD 200 for pious xxxs. In the past, when the danger of anti-Semitic hostility was a real one, the pious xxxs were commanded by their rabbis either to spit so that the reason for doing so would be unknown, or to spit onto their chests, not actually on the cross or openly before the church. The increasing strength of the xxxish state has caused these customs to become more open again but there should be no mistake: The spitting on the cross for converts from Christianity to Judaism, organized in Kibbutz Sa'ad and financed by the Israeli government, is a an act of traditional xxxish piety."


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According to Amiram Barkat in Ha'aretz on Oct. 12, 2004, the phenomenom is probably underreported by the victims:

SEE: "Christians in Jerusalem want xxxs to stop spitting on them."

A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.

The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by xxxs. Many Jerusalem clergy have been subjected to abuse of this kind. For the most part, they ignore it but sometimes they cannot.

On Sunday, a fracas developed when a yeshiva student spat at the cross being carried by the Armenian Archbishop during a procession near the Holy Sepulchre in the Old City. The archbishop's 17th-century cross was broken during the brawl and he slapped the yeshiva student.

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"Chilling Account of Anti-Armenian Lobbying by xxxish American Groups" - Friday, June 11th, 2010 by Asbarez.com:
http://asbarez.com/81982/chilling-ac...erican-groups/

http://www.rense.com/general64/genoc.htm

A CLIP TOWARDS THE END ABOUT CHRISTIANS IN ISRAEL (Starts at 3:47, but the whole thing is worth watching.)