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  • #61
    Originally posted by Murtaza
    Keep in mind that if Armenians had chosen Islam as state religion, Armenia would have been a Turkic country, or worst yet - a part of Turkey.


    LOL this is not real, remember Albanians and Bosnians? They choose and they are still living. Remember pomaks(bulgarian Muslims) They are still living.
    Remember Kurds?
    I like the message all religions convey. I myself would call myself a Christian, but I am not practicing. I do not go to Church and I do not pray and all the rituals that go with it. I like many aspects from Christianity and I dislike others. With Islam I dislike it's views toward women. I'm not a feminist but I realize that you can't treat women like they were in the days of Cro Magnon Man. The other day I saw a documentary on Sudan I think, or was it some other Muslim country. In any event, it was showing how some British executives set up a factory there. It started to employ women, and one woman whos husband had died, had three kids to feed. Thus she found work at this company and was making good money, she was happy. These idiotic Muslim men were pissed. How dare a woman work to support her family!! So they burned down the god damned factory and alot of people went unemployed. As much as religion offers messages of spiritual transcendence ( and I am the first to admit this) it also has alot of phucked up bullshyt that makes people act like a bunch of idiots.
    Last edited by Anonymouse; 08-02-2005, 11:02 PM.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #62
      Anonymouse, Cat Stevens isn't going to appreciate that.

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      • #63
        even cat stevens has the right to become an idiot and remain like one....

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Anonymouse
          I like the message all religions convey. I myself would call myself a Christian, but I am not practicing. I do not go to Church and I do not pray and all the rituals that go with it. I like many aspects from Christianity and I dislike others. With Islam I dislike it's views toward women. I'm not a feminist but I realize that you can't treat women like they were in the days of Cro Magnon Man. The other day I saw a documentary on Sudan I think, or was it some other Muslim country. In any event, it was showing how some British executives set up a factory there. It started to employ women, and one woman whos husband had died, had three kids to feed. Thus she found work at this company and was making good money, she was happy. These idiotic Muslim men were pissed. How dare a woman work to support her family!! So they burned down the god damned factory and alot of people went unemployed. As much as religion offers messages of spiritual transcendence ( and I am the first to admit this) it also has alot of phucked up bullshyt that makes people act like a bunch of idiots.

          this has no relation with islam, but with stupidness and with culture. Religion was mostly used by others. crusaders or El kaide(their aim is political) can be examples of this.Every minor difference used by people. Race, religion, sect, clour of skin, langauge.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Murtaza
            this has no relation with islam, but with stupidness and with culture. Religion was mostly used by others. crusaders or El kaide(their aim is political) can be examples of this.Every minor difference used by people. Race, religion, sect, clour of skin, langauge.
            Why doesn't it? Islam views women as below men. It has every relation with Islam. You look at any Islamic country and women are treated with the shyt end of the stick as opposed to Western societies. Let's face it, facts are facts. Does this mean all Islam prescribes this? Certainly not. Many Muslims however subscribe to this view.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #66
              Anonymouse, Islam is mostly vague, commenting islam is much important.(You can comment it like al kaide or like others) But A woman can work If she want, Islam dont interest it. Islamic system dont make people perfect, people make islamic system fine.

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              • #67
                are you different than Asala, serb or whatever? So why should I care it,so I dont.
                have a fine day.

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                • #68
                  LOL this is not real, remember Albanians and Bosnians? They choose and they are still living. Remember pomaks(bulgarian Muslims) They are still living.
                  Remember Kurds?
                  Albanians and Bosnians do not count because there are other countries between them and Turkey. Kurds, a people who are geographically close to Armenians, live all separated in Turkey, Iraq, Iran... If a Kurd from Turkey spoke Turkish instead of Kurdish, I don't think you would be able to differenciate him from any other Turk. Quite frankly, I don't think there are a lot of them that speak their mother language in Turkey. They are pretty much assimilated.

                  Just look at those Islamicized Greeks, Armenians, and others whose descendents still live in Turkey.

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                  • #69
                    wrong most probably, It would be Turkish and kurdish people asimilated.(before TC)

                    Remember laz? they are still not asimilated. After WW1 Turkey is just 7 million(and all of them is not Turk), and you claim there were 2 million Armenians, most probably they would rule Turkey.

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                    • #70
                      Historical hypotheticals aside, who cares? If whatever Armenian ruler 1700 years decided that all Armenians were to be Christian had instead decided they were to be Islamic, and subsequently they had good relations with the Ottoman Empire, would this have ended the world? Even if they chose to adopt the Turkish language, so what? That's their choice, and guess what? You would all be Turks right now, proclaiming the greatness of that nation and belittling their enemies. It's not like God created Armenians and Turks and made them enemies. At some point, your ancestors were something else and became assimilated.

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