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  • #91
    These mosques and churches have no use anymore since there is no one left to worship in them. So it is pointless to reopen them. It is only a rhetorical question.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Murtaza
      dont be stupid, or at least dont be sooooo much stupid.
      I agree with you. Radar listen to your friend's advice.

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      • #93
        Nakharar well, Lets say Europe was backward to muslim world at that times. Now we are backward.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by nakharar
          95% of Spanish population during the Muslim Era were Spanish Christians by the way. True the Muslim leaders there were benevolent and tolerant. But as soon as the reconquista started the Christians flocked to their Northern brothers. Blood is thicker than water.

          You seemed to forget that the Ottomans used the Haghia Sophia as a mosque for 500 years. How very convenient of you to leave that part out isn't it? They also used the Imperial Byzantine Church of Haghia Irene as a horse stable. If you are so tolerant turn over the Haghia Sophia to its rightful owners: The Ecumenical Patriarch.
          ??????????
          It seems that you don't read books. Just seach google and you will find that Muslims and Jews were the majority. 95% ???
          As soon as reconquesta started Christians butchered Muslims and Jews, rest are forced to convert to Chrietianity or expelled. Even the ones who became Christian to save their lives are massacred during 16th-17th centuries because Christians accused them to practice Islam and Judaism secretly.

          Hagia Sohia is a museum now, and all Chrtistian symbols are preserved during Ottoman time and are now exhibited. But Cordoba mosque is still used as church, after conversion Christians destorted most of the architectual shape and turned it into an ordinary church. But you still can observe how the building was brilliant during it was a mosque.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Murtaza
            Nakharar well, Lets say Europe was backward to muslim world at that times. Now we are backward.
            I never contested that. But it is the present which counts. The only Turk I respect is Ataturk, but he was too good for you. You turned your backs on him and voted for that Islamist guy. (Maybe not you two, but you get the point)

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            • #96
              Of course your Turkish books might say otherwise. The original inhabitants of Spain were the Spaniards. Arabs and Jews were no more than 5% of the population. They were the ruling elite only. The masses were ordinary Christian Spaniards. Look it up.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by nakharar
                How come you always evade questions and resort to cheap shots when you can't come up with an intelligent answer. Whether you like it or not Armenians are part of the European cultural landscape if even on the periphery. Where did I say that the "Dark Ages" were brilliant. They were hardly brilliant, but wasn't like you put it in your infantile comment: When Christians were living at Dark Ages, living a primitive life without any science, art, philosopy, without city life, when Christians were barbaric bloody tribes who even do not know how to clean, at the same ages Islam was only civilised culture in the world. This is such a stupid sentence it requires no further comment.
                This sentence is totally and exactly true as you know. It is a well known fact and not Muslims but Christians themselves say this.
                About this Armenians are European thing, I remember this from another thread in this forum which some guys were trying their best to show themselves as white, european, and such
                well, you really have some problems, especially at those days when stereotypes are risen towards middle-eastern people. You will have more inferiority complex against your middle eastern identites and you will try your best not to relate yourselves with them. But your thich black eyebrows show your origins
                why are you feel shame from your origins? it is fine to be eastern, get relax

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by nakharar
                  I never contested that. But it is the present which counts. The only Turk I respect is Ataturk, but he was too good for you. You turned your backs on him and voted for that Islamist guy. (Maybe not you two, but you get the point)
                  Well, I voted for them, and I dont think I turned my back to him. I voted for my country.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by nakharar
                    Of course your Turkish books might say otherwise. The original inhabitants of Spain were the Spaniards. Arabs and Jews were no more than 5% of the population. They were the ruling elite only. The masses were ordinary Christian Spaniards. Look it up.
                    Turkish books don't mention Spain that much. It is not popular. As I said before, make a search from google and learn something. Even people you say Chritians had not that much religious faith since they were mostly visigoths who were between paganism and Christianity.

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                    • As like other issues you don'T know anything about Turkey except stereotypes. I can vote to AKP, which ypu call islamist party. They are not fundemantalists, more like Christian Democrats in Europe.

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