Will you read the Quran in Armenian?

[nakharar]

And again you deflect and twsit words which doesn't suit you. Your reading skills are even worse than your English skills. There might be some Armenians who are obsessed with being European and White, but they are few and in between. I never said that Armenians are obsessed with being European. We are part of the European cultural landscape. If you hadn't destroyed all our churches you would have seen why. How come all the stonemasons in Turkey were Armenians, as were most of the artisans and almost all merchants. That sentence show your inferiority complex. By the way, I've been in your country. Just look around you in Istanbul and get to see all the shabbily dressed people who spit on sideways and the countless shantytowns and urban jungle which you call Turkish archtitecture. And ask yourself where we did go wrong. Can you do that?

[nakharar]

Christian Democrats my ass. You admitted that you voted for a Muslim fundamentalist. No wonder you are so backward as a country.

Quotes from Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

More recently, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, shortly before becoming Turkey's new prime minister, railed against contraception as “straight out treason to the state.” Have babies,” he told the cheering crowd. “Allah wants it.”


"Democracy is not a goal, it is only a vehicle"

"The Muslim world is waiting for the Turkish people to rise up. We will rise up! With Allah's permission, the rebellion will start."

"You cannot be secular and a Muslim at the same time," (Erdogan New York Times, Oct. 31, 2002, A3)

[radar]

And again you deflect and twsit words which doesn't suit you. Your reading skills are even worse than your English skills. There might be some Armenians who are obsessed with being European and White, but they are few and in between. I never said that Armenians are obsessed with being European. We are part of the European cultural landscape. If you hadn't destroyed all our churches you would have seen why. How come all the stonemasons in Turkey were Armenians, as were most of the artisans and almost all merchants. That sentence show your inferiority complex. By the way, I've been in your country. Just look around you in Istanbul and get to see all the shabbily dressed people who spit on sideways and the countless shantytowns and urban jungle which you call Turkish archtitecture. And ask yourself where we did go wrong. Can you do that?

You may have a link with European culture because of Christianity, but that's all. Sorry
Well, as you appreciate but do not confess Istanbul is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Yes there are newly rised districts at Istanbul because of huge and massive migration from Anatolia, but still Istanbul is one of the most modern cities of the world.
But, OK, I agree that Istanbul was more beuutiful since 1950's before the mass migration, and Armenian architects also contributed to this beauty. No problem about it.

[nakharar]

Only the Bosphorus is pretty. The city itself is rather downtrodden and dilapidated.

[Murtaza]

Christian Democrats my ass. You admitted that you voted for a Muslim fundamentalist. No wonder you are so backward as a country.

Quotes from Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

More recently, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, shortly before becoming Turkey's new prime minister, railed against contraception as “straight out treason to the state.” Have babies,” he told the cheering crowd. “Allah wants it.”


"Democracy is not a goal, it is only a vehicle"

"The Muslim world is waiting for the Turkish people to rise up. We will rise up! With Allah's permission, the rebellion will start."

"You cannot be secular and a Muslim at the same time," (Erdogan New York Times, Oct. 31, 2002, A3)

Yes yes we know he is somewhat embesil, but well, he did good job for 4 year. Didnt he?

[radar]

Christian Democrats my ass. You admitted that you voted for a Muslim fundamentalist. No wonder you are so backward as a country.

Quotes from Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

More recently, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, shortly before becoming Turkey's new prime minister, railed against contraception as “straight out treason to the state.” Have babies,” he told the cheering crowd. “Allah wants it.”


"Democracy is not a goal, it is only a vehicle"

"The Muslim world is waiting for the Turkish people to rise up. We will rise up! With Allah's permission, the rebellion will start."

"You cannot be secular and a Muslim at the same time," (Erdogan New York Times, Oct. 31, 2002, A3)

Hmm, it seems that Turkish government cencored these speeches from us. I get angry.
But honestly I will ask a question to you, not to make you angry, but only I wonder: Why do you focus with Turkish politics that much and search something to label Turkey, instead of caring about Armenia politics. As I said before fascist leader, former murderer Kocaryan threathened Petrosyan with death and now ruling his tyranny. There is no democracy at Armenia. Please answer me?

[Murtaza]

Radar no It didnt, even they jailed erdogan.

[radar]

pfff, whatever...
I am going to our forum.

https://www.turkishclub.net

there is an English thread at the forum and all Armenians are invited.

[nakharar]

I totally agree with you there. I'm hardly a defender of Armenia's current political establishment. Especially the fat cats who enrich himself at the peoples expense. I don't think Kocharian would go as far as to have the former President assasinated. Maybe the entourage around him. Currently Armenia has a democracy deficit, but you can't blame Armenia for that. We have elections, but which country in the former Soviet Union isn't like that.

[nakharar]

Why didn't they keep Erdogan in jail? They should have. I would call that treason.