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  • #111
    nakharar because of democracy.

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    • #112
      he is the best we can find, and I think he is best for you too.

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      • #113
        I see. Maybe because he is not a nationalist? His loyalties lie elsewhere. The United States, the EU?

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        • #114
          No he is,but Islam ban nationalism. so It limits his nationalist feeling and his loyalties lies to his people(At least I think so). He want EU because of military.

          For USA, we are ally, even an ugly one.

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          • #115
            So he can't show his true feelings because he doesn't want to anger Muslim fundemantalists? Or lose EU support? Why can't you ditch the US as an ally? They won't be able to do much I suppose. I'm asking these because I'm curious to know.

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            • #116
              because We have not much ally. We can resist them, I dont think they can do us much. But why we should ditch USA?

              If Turkey is in EU, maybe It can be different.

              So he can't show his true feelings because he doesn't want to anger Muslim fundemantalists? Or lose EU support?

              what do you mean with this? abour armenian issue?

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              • #117
                He cannot show his nationalism, because Islam limits nationalism. But then you say that he is loyal to his people. Do you mean the people who voted for him or the whole Turkish people? If it is the second then he must be a nationalist. I don't think that is a bad thing at all. I meant that if he is too much of a nationalist the EU won't approve because he is not going to do what they want from him.

                About the US as an ally I know that you need them for political and other reasons (economic and military support). But being a US ally comes at a price as you know very well yourself.

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                • #118
                  whole Turkish people are not only Turks.When I said nationalism, I mean Turkish nationalism which trying to asimilate Kurds or other races.(He prefer to say people of Turkey, instead of Turks)

                  And he wont do totally what EU want from him.What EU want is a little vague.And We dont trust EU much too. I think he also know EU wont accept Turkey. But He have a campaign against military effect over Turkish politic. For this he need EU.


                  About the US as an ally I know that you need them for political and other reasons (economic and military support). But being a US ally comes at a price as you know very well yourself.

                  Being ally of russia too. So we should pay the price.

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                  • #119
                    Thanks for the clarification. I understand what you are trying to say.

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                    • #120
                      Originally posted by radar
                      yourselves with them. But your thich black eyebrows show your origins



                      What does 'thick black eyebrows' have to with Middle Easterness? Do you not realise that ethnic diffusion is very gradual, there are no cut-offs. That's why it is cultural/civilisational boundries that exist. You should see a friend of mine of Dutch background. Armenian ethnic origin is predominantly South Caucasian.
                      Armenia was just a part of the continuos stretch of European civilisation (actually occidental civilisation should be the proper term) before Turks cut us off.

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