Armenian White Nationalism

[Hate_Sheep]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

By the way, I believe the Armenians who subscribe to White Nationalist ideology are misguided in their notion of patriotism and in their response to continuous attacks that Armenia bore at the hands of foreign oppresors. Their foolishness is shown in some of their crazy conspiracy theories. In fact the majority are kids.

I believe though that their heart is in the right place. Well, they love their nation and their people. That, for me anyways, is enough to accept them. I believe today at least, we cannot afford not to.

Actually this couldnt be further from the truth. They have nothing but hatred, and no love for their nation or people. If they had pride in being Armenian, they wouldnt need to be identified with being white, so badly. If they had pride in being Armenian, they would accept, "middle eastern looking" Armenians, as real Armenians, rather then Arabs, or mixed semites. If anything to me the "white looking Armenians" are more likely to be mixed with russian, then dark ones being mixed with arab. If they had pride in being Armenian, they would not post pictures of every white lookin Armenian, they can find on every site, to try to prove we are blonde hair and blue eyes, when they damn well know
the majority of us, are dark hair, and dark complexioned. If they were proud to be Armenian, they would not tell their fellow "white brothers", that if they see a dark Armo, he is either a turk or arab rape victim. Need I go on, I think you get the point?
They even say themselves there is no dark Armenians, and those Armenians that are dark are not Armenian. They would be just as quick to wipe out dark Armenians, as they would be to wipe out arabs, so dont be fooled, by these morons.
I dont think we can afford to accept them, if we want our race to move forward. If it was up to them, they would wipe out half the Armenian population themselves, because we are to "arab looking" for them.

[Hate_Sheep]

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I can see why you find it difficult to understand them. They are ignorant or misguided people. If they look just 50 years back in the US history, they'll find examples of white supremacists discriminating against Armenians. Armenian Cause has nothing to do with superiority; although some Armenians put their culture above everything else, superiority is not the driving force behind the Armenian Cause. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for white supremacism.

You dont even need to go back 50 years, you can find example of it all over the place now. Most the white people in LA hate Armenians more then they do mexicans. Most Americans would not even be able to distinguish an Arab from an Armenian. These Armenians that join these idiotic white power crap, have extreme insecurity issues.

[ABC]

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You dont even need to go back 50 years, you can find example of it all over the place now. Most the white people in LA hate Armenians more then they do mexicans. Most Americans would not even be able to distiguish and Arab from an Armenian. These Armenians that join these idiotic white power crap, have extreme insecurity issues.

Educated Americans can distinguish between an Arab and an Armenian, and if they can't, we'll just have to teach them. As for those who hate Armenians, it's a temporary problem. They are overwhelmed by our growing numbers and resent our growth. The number of Armenians in PhD, MD, JD and other advanced programs is getting bigger every year, and that's not just in LA but across the country. I know of a number successful start up companies started by Armenians in fhe last 10 years. As for Armenians involved in crime, it's a temporary problem that almost every immigrant group goes through during their first decade in the US. So, if some Americans hate us, educate them and give them time. They'll come around.

[TomServo]

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You dont even need to go back 50 years, you can find example of it all over the place now. Most the white people in LA hate Armenians more then they do mexicans.

This is not true.

Most Americans would not even be able to distinguish an Arab from an Armenian.

This is true (sometimes).

These Armenians that join these idiotic white power crap, have extreme insecurity issues.

This is true.

[Hate_Sheep]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

Educated Americans can distinguish between an Arab and an Armenian, and if they can't, we'll just have to teach them. As for those who hate Armenians, it's a temporary problem. They are overwhelmed by our growing numbers and resent our growth. The number of Armenians in PhD, MD, JD and other advanced programs is getting bigger every year, and that's not just in LA but across the country. I know of a number successful start up companies started by Armenians in fhe last 10 years. As for Armenians involved in crime, it's a temporary problem that almost every immigrant group goes through during their first decade in the US. So, if some Americans hate us, educate them and give them time. They'll come around.

Yes I know all this, but you missed my point. It is much easier to tell between Armenians and Americans, on average, then it is to tell between Armenians and Arabs, despite how educated someone is.
However my point simply was that, whether we are good or not, there will always be a percent of the population that is ignorant and racist no matter what.The same way they hate mexicans no matter how good or bad they are, there will always be those same idiots to hate Armenians, just based on physical appearance and culture. All white power idiots fall into this category. They might accept, the odd Armenian, or even mexican, just as long as that person does not look, or act like the typical Armenian type. However since the majority of Armenians do not fall into this category, they would lynch us, just as fast as they would any other minority, based on appearance, if they had the chance to do so.

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

The issue about being middle eastern... I don't reject this in a geographical sense, but the middle east tends to have an Arab (and Israeli of course) connotation to it, and an ignorant person would succumb this connotation if an Armenian mentions it as the region they come from.

This is not wrong, especially in the case of Armenians from Arab nations, however, there are things that the term middle east can bring about which can influence inaccurate definitions about Armenians. For one, we are Christian (or at least we're born as Christians, what we do with our faith afterwards is our choice), while the Middle East is associated with Islam by the average North American who isn't concerned with distinctions within the region.
Secondly, Armenian isn't an Arab dialect. I've heard this a few times. The reason behind it is likely the friendliness and the sharing of culture that Armenians have experienced in Arab countries with other Arabs, and when the topic comes up between an outsider and an Arab or Armenian, or a group of them together, the outsider may perceive them all as the same thing.
Lastly, the paranoia of terrorism that North Americans experience with that region has a negative impact on our people, who take no part in all those bombings that reach the headlines over and over again in the news. Most North Americans aren't aware of our politics and our foreign relations, unique to our circumstances in the Caucasus region (and Anatolia), and not the general Middle East.

This is why I personally avoid associating with the Middle East, even though Armenia is in it, and much prefer pointing out the Anatolian and Caucasian regions within that general region of the world, as they are more specific when it comes to defining our heritage, and aren't considered as insignificant regions internationally either.

[ABC]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

There is a lot of Middle Eastern influence in Armenian culture and some Armenians live in Middle Eastern countries like Lebanon or Iran, but I don't associate Armenians with Middle East either. By the same token, you could argue that Bulgarians or Greek are also Middle Eastern because they have similar cuisine and music.

[parthiapride]

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I can see why you find it difficult to understand them. They are ignorant or misguided people. If they look just 50 years back in the US history, they'll find examples of white supremacists discriminating against Armenians. Armenian Cause has nothing to do with superiority; although some Armenians put their culture above everything else, superiority is not the driving force behind the Armenian Cause. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for white supremacism.

Armenians in the Central Valley of CA used to be called Fresno Indians.
Ask Saroyan.

William that is.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

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Judge for yourself. Here's a picture of Parthiapride that was posted by him several weeks ago on another thread:

Then he is white, albeit in denial.

[TJ]

Re: Armenian White Nationalism

Armenia is not even geographically in the middle east, if you think it is oh enlightened one, perhaps you should got and take a course in geography. And I am quite sure Americans can tell the difference between the average Arab and the average Armenian, to even suggest that this isnt true is ridiculous, have you been watching the news lately? now do you know any Armenians at all? can you compare the two sights for yourself, how stupid do you have to be to confuse most Armenians with most Arabs?
Lastly where do you even come up with the information that: (and im summarizing here) Blond blue eyed Armenians are mixed with Russians and darker Armenians are not mixed with Arabs or Turks? or vise versa? interesting to see how quickly you squash other people's views for not well backed up while you post random BS with even less proof or backing.