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  • #11
    Re: Us and the Country

    To solve this issue, I have come up with the perfect solution:

    Your "nation" should not be a political regime or a body of government, it should be a PEOPLE. The Armenian people - and anything besides complete devotion and pride in your nation will just not suffice.

    Ask not what you're people have done for you, but what you can do for your people. Deal?

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    • #12
      Re: Us and the Country

      Originally posted by ace
      To solve this issue, I have come up with the perfect solution:

      Your "nation" should not be a political regime or a body of government, it should be a PEOPLE. The Armenian people - and anything besides complete devotion and pride in your nation will just not suffice.

      Ask not what you're people have done for you, but what you can do for your people. Deal?
      That is, ultimately, what we mean, of course.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #13
        Re: Us and the Country

        I think we're all trying to do something for our people. Some of us, however, those who could make the biggest difference, are being ignored. What more are they supposed to do? Be quiet and continue to support our downfall as a nation?

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        • #14
          Re: Us and the Country

          Originally posted by tunot
          Some of us, however, those who could make the biggest difference, are being ignored. What more are they supposed to do?

          What do you mean by this? Who is being ignored?
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #15
            Re: Us and the Country

            Originally posted by Anonymouse
            Then if it has lost you, why are you still here ranting about Armenian issues? Why does it still perturb you?
            To try and stop it from happening anymore and try to attract our lost sheep back. You're not doing anything about. You promote our birthrate and non-mixture as if that will really help! It hasn't till now, so why would it now that you say so?

            As long as we ignore our "white massacre," our continuous assimilation, we will not change anything, regardless of how many babies we pump out, or how hard we try not to mix with genotypes inferior or superior to us. We won't even change the situation if we try to teach all our kids to speak Armenian. What's the use of speaking Armenian, not mixing, and having lots of babies, if we are on the road to extinction anyway?

            Think of other solutions and I might take you more seriously.

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            • #16
              Re: Us and the Country

              Originally posted by Anonymouse
              What do you mean by this? Who is being ignored?
              Gostan Zarian, Derenik Demirchian, Ara Baliozian. Need I name more? I don't need to say anything new, when everything has already been said by people much smarter than me.

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              • #17
                Re: Us and the Country

                Originally posted by tunot
                To try and stop it from happening anymore and try to attract our lost sheep back. You're not doing anything about. You promote our birthrate and non-mixture as if that will really help! It hasn't till now, so why would it now that you say so?

                As long as we ignore our "white massacre," our continuous assimilation, we will not change anything, regardless of how many babies we pump out, or how hard we try not to mix with genotypes inferior or superior to us. We won't even change the situation if we try to teach all our kids to speak Armenian. What's the use of speaking Armenian, not mixing, and having lots of babies, if we are on the road to extinction anyway?

                Think of other solutions and I might take you more seriously.
                Who said this is purely a "white massacre"? Just the other day, a relative of ours informed my folks how his brother's son is going to marry a Korean girl! It's just as much a "yellow" and "black" massacre.

                Why are you so short sighted tunot? Why do you think all I care about are birthrates? And why do you take all that I say at face value? Do you not think that I blindly support higher Armenian birthrates, and not mixing? Obviously, it must first be Armenians that want Armenians to survive who would think that way. I cannot force people to do what I want or think they should do. All I can do is try to talk to them and raise these issues and I do every chance I get within my own meandering existence, to highlight what is at stake. If they do not care or not bothered by it and wish to continue tilling the fields, meandering in their lobotomized existence, then I consider them a lost cause. But even for every one person that can understand what is at stake, then I still consider that a cause for hope.

                By the way, I don't care for you, nor if you take me seriously or not. I consider you part of those lost Armenians that are too self-absorbed, too defeatist, and too in love with themselves like Arlen and Ara Baliozian.
                Last edited by Anonymouse; 06-17-2006, 12:24 PM.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #18
                  Re: Us and the Country

                  I've already emphasized enough times that our birthrate is high enough. The trouble begins when most of us begin to assimilate. And this means taking it much further than simply marrying someone outside of our culture. At least someone who marries outside of the culture, might be able to assimilated his/her children INTO the Armenian culture. It's happened before. Why do you think we're so pure? Most of our maz comes from Persians. Example: my sister-in-law is a quarter Latvian, three-quarters Armenian. She's now married to an Armenian (my brother) and has a daughter who is being raised as an Armenian. For your info, she was an honor's student in IT, or whatever, in Armenia before she came here. Very smart person. Her father, who is half Latvian, is a professor of physics in Yerevan.

                  What I mean is Armenians (half, quarter, or full) who want to have no association with fellow Armenians whatsoever. These people are in the majority. Most of them started off loving Armenians, sometimes even as partisans of some corrupt Armenian political party. They decided enough was enough when they opened their eyes and saw the reality: that we are a weak and insignificant nation that is not willing to change, no matter how hard one tries.

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                  • #19
                    Re: Us and the Country

                    Originally posted by tunot
                    Gostan Zarian, Derenik Demirchian, Ara Baliozian. Need I name more? I don't need to say anything new, when everything has already been said by people much smarter than me.
                    Right, the same Ara Baliozian that supports the miscegenetion of Armenians with every people there is. What a way to continue the nation! I should have thought of that. What was my short-sighted self thinking?

                    There are many people smarter than all of us, but what does that truly mean? Our relative's son is a smart man, a mechanical engineer, and what is he doing? Marrying a Korean lady. Being smart is not always a good indicator of being tactful or knowing where you stand in this world of madness and civilization.
                    Achkerov kute.

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                    • #20
                      Re: Us and the Country

                      Also, an Armenian like yourself, who has only just begun to grow pubic hair, should watch his mouth a little. Ara could be your great-grandfather, and he has seen more among Armenians than you ever will unless you decide to open your eyes and get to know our culture a bit.

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