Us and the Country

[Anonymouse]

Re: Us and the Country

I am as a matter of fact. That and reading the news and hanging about a couple of cultural centers, organizations, political parties, and politicians. Then you should know just about enough, and you can't possibly disagree with me.

I don't disagree with reading the news, being involved in cultural events or organizations, etc. What I disagree with is your sneering attitude that if you read and only agree with your viewpoint and those whom you agree with, that qualifies one to to be well versed.

[tunot]

Re: Us and the Country

I don't disagree with reading the news, being involved in cultural events or organizations, etc. What I disagree with is your sneering attitude that if you read and only agree with your viewpoint and those whom you agree with, that qualifies one to to be well versed.

If you have seen it with your eyes, what exactly is there to disagree with? Pray tell.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Us and the Country

If you have seen it with your eyes, what exactly is there to disagree with? Pray tell.

The defeatism and nihilism that you propound.

[tunot]

Re: Us and the Country

The defeatism and nihilism that you propound.

Speak English. Please. No one can be a nihilist. Turgenev proved it in Fathers and Sons. We all believe in something, even if we try hard not to. As for defeatism, you have to be truly a moron to think that I don't think we need to fight to get things straight. What do you think I've been writing up until now? Have I ever said: let's lay back, because trying is not going to help anyway? If I have, please tell me where. I may have said that your obsession with birthrate and non-mixture is not the solution to our problem, which runs much deeper. You'll have to do just a bit more than to chastise your uncle for getting himself a beautiful, no doubt, Korean lady, if you want the situation to change.

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

See, you stupid so-called "Armenian," if we had listened to our brains to begin with, then there would never have been a Turkey and an Azerbaijan to speak of. And if we would listen now, neither Turkey nor Azerbaijan would ever dare raise their arms against us. You want more Armenians to die in useless wars against our enemies? Go ahead and kill yourself. I'm not willing to sacrifice any of the men in my family for stupid wars just because the likes of you are too stupid to understand that we could have done it otherwise so that there would have to be no war, no corruption, no poverty, no diaspora, no assimilation.

You are truly a certifiable idiot.

In a wartime situation, you and your kind would be the first ones we would have to get rid-off before we turn our attention to the external enemy. Vermin like you are a cancer from within.

Thank God our nation has "lost" people like you.

[Anonymouse]

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Speak English. Please. No one can be a nihilist. Turgenev proved it in Fathers and Sons. We all believe in something, even if we try hard not to. As for defeatism, you have to be truly a moron to think that I don't think we need to fight to get things straight. What do you think I've been writing up until now? Have I ever said: let's lay back, because trying is not going to help anyway? If I have, please tell me where. I may have said that your obsession with birthrate and non-mixture is not the solution to our problem, which runs much deeper. You'll have to do just a bit more than to chastise your uncle for getting himself a beautiful, no doubt, Korean lady, if you want the situation to change.

As much as you would like to believe you are not a nihilist and a defeatist the fact remains that what has seeped from between your writing is nothing but defeatism and nihilism. After all, it is you who constantly proclaims we are doomed so why bother, and a few pages back you actually wished the destruction of Armenia. Now you will spin this in a way so as to redeem yourself.

By the way, my "obsession" with birthrate and mixture is misunderstood by you, as everything else that goes into your warped cynical mind. Birthrate and mixing is nothing without actual Armenians who understand why it is so and what it is they are to preserve.

By the way nairi, you have managed to turn this thread again into yet another shouting match "shouting from rooftops". All you are doing is creating ruckus. You cannot discuss anything with anyone because if anyone disrupts your set of pre-determined thoughts, you are annoyed by it, and the slightest disagreement raises the biggest unease with your ego. When I will close this thread, you will accuse me of having no balls for trying to have the last word. Are you that silly on the internet? You seem to take this way too seriously. Do not let your pent up frustration and grim and dim view of life consume you. It's not healthy.

[tunot]

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As much as you would like to believe you are not a nihilist and a defeatist the fact remains that what has seeped from between your writing is nothing but defeatism and nihilism. After all, it is you who constantly proclaims we are doomed so why bother, and a few pages back you actually wished the destruction of Armenia. Now you will spin this in a way so as to redeem yourself.

I never said Armenia was doomed to this or that. I said that if we continue in this fashion, we are doomed to suffer another genocide, live in diaspora perpetually, and assimilate even more than we are now. Or are you asking me to bend over and be sodomized?

As for what I said before, it was out of anger, and I still stand by my word that if Armenia is meant to be ruled by the likes of you and the vermin above, then I'd rather see it extinct.

By the way nairi, you have managed to turn this thread again into yet another shouting match "shouting from rooftops".

I always knew there was something warped about the moderators and the admins on Armenian Club. First I get banned because one of them is suffering from an ego-trip, and now this. Have you perhaps not noticed that the only one who started insulting others on this thread has been the vermin you support with all your heart? And you want to become a lawyer? You can't even tell the difference between who's the perpetrator and who's not. Get a life!

[tunot]

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Thank God our nation has "lost" people like you.

But it hasn't, you see. I'm still around. And I will be around happily to bury you when you die young from natural causes. Along with your pesky children.

[simonig]

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Please everyone, take a step back, a deep breathe, and relax. You people are wishing death upon people that don't agree with your political point of view!

There is nothing wrong with questioning authority. That is the only way to keep them honest. In the past, it was either their way or no way. Now we have an opportunity to make a diaspora for all kinds of Armenians.

Everyone is talented in different ways. "Armenian" your way may help our cause by disassociating yourself with anyone non-yeravantsi and starping on a gun and fighting on the battle fields. I find it more usefull to go after the Turkish government through the political path which requires us to interact with those who may not be Armenian.

Their is no right or wrong way of being vigilant. Some of us would be most useful as order takers and grunt workers while others are part of the educated white collar approach to our goal. Neither should have anything to be ashamed about.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Us and the Country

I never said Armenia was doomed to this or that. I said that if we continue in this fashion, we are doomed to suffer another genocide, live in diaspora perpetually, and assimilate even more than we are now. Or are you asking me to bend over and be sodomized?

As for what I said before, it was out of anger, and I still stand by my word that if Armenia is meant to be ruled by the likes of you and the vermin above, then I'd rather see it extinct.

Who said I want to rule anything? This is another example of you assigning things to me that I did not state. You are being obtuse, as usual and the above is nothing new.

I always knew there was something warped about the moderators and the admins on Armenian Club. First I get banned because one of them is suffering from an ego-trip, and now this. Have you perhaps not noticed that the only one who started insulting others on this thread has been the vermin you support with all your heart? And you want to become a lawyer? You can't even tell the difference between who's the perpetrator and who's not. Get a life!

Who said I am banning you? Calm the hell down. You are so self-absorbed that you cannot see. "Wah my name is nairi and I am the perennial victim". What vermin do I support with all my heart? How do you know it is with all my heart? Do you even know me? Why do you have to resort to such cheap personal attacks and cannot engage in any thoughtful dialogue? It is out of anger no doubt as you admitted, and perhaps even frustration and desperation. I am not here to make you angry or frustrated. You do that to yourself because of your dim outlook on life and your intolerance of those who disagree with you. Your personal attacks don't do anything because they are the lonely cry of a desperate and misunderstood soul. When things don't go your way, your bitterness and cynicism consume you and your only recourse is to constantly blame everyone else for what are your inabilities, weaknesses, deficiencies and shortcomings, although you will claim you do none of that. I never deny that Armenian or myself engaged in insults, which is why I closed the previous thread, because it got out of hand. I was candid and honest about it, but you had to respond accusing me of having no balls and trying to have the last word, when all I did was close an already derailed thread.

The other thread was closed, so you started this. And what did you do? You graced the thread with your usual nihilistic cynical defeatism and anyone who disagreed with you, or Arlen, or Ara Baliozian is a vermin or the epitome of Armenian destruction and lead it to the road of no return.