Us and the Country

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

Armenian, I honestly respect your dedication and your strong Armenian passion. Granted you may be well versed in Armenian affairs but you can not bully me or anyone else into your hard line nationalistic(militaristic) point of view. If it makes you feel better about your sense of being Armenian, then more power to you(I don't mean that sarcasticly).

There is a time and place for reading verbal gymnastics and acting inteliectual, clearly now is not the time for our people.

The republic of Armenia (the only thing on earth that concerns me, other than my family) is in a neighborhood that only understands the rule of might. In the Caucasus its Kill or be Killed, as we saw in Artsakh, Chechnya, Abkhazia, Ossetia, etc.

Where was that voritsak Ara Baliozian and his braindead followers during the Artsakh war? What did they do to impact the war in our favor? Read the crap the fool in question writes closely, its nothing by self-hating rhetoric - utter garbage in my opinion. He is the type of an Armenian I would gladly feed to the lions.

When the s-h-i-t hits the fan and Turkic armies mass on our borders, the foofoo Baliozians and the Tunots of this world will do Armenia no good. As a matter of fact, these low lives I refered to are a liability for our nation.

Wake up Simonig, its a nasty world we live in.

Miyayn zenkov ka Hayoc prkutyun!

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

It's already lost the likes of me.

Then what the "F" are you doing here in an Armenian forum you turkic maggot?

Thousands. Hundreds of thousands. Millions. If the present situation is what you call benefit, then you deserve it.

You are a delusional basket case. I suggest you invest in some Prozak.

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

I consider you part of those lost Armenians that are too self-absorbed, too defeatist, and too in love with themselves like Arlen and Ara Baliozian.

This is a common trait for most so-called intellectuals. Perhaps if our intellectuals and their braindead followers chose to pick up rifles instead of their worthless pens during the genocide years, our situation would not have been as dire.

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

Also, an Armenian like yourself, who has only just begun to grow pubic hair, should watch his mouth a little. Ara could be your great-grandfather...

A senile Babik no one but idiots pay attention to.

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

No, the same Ara who has translated some of our best authors who you wish to ignore.

Oh my goodness, I did not realize this.

You mean because this Baliosian has done some intellectual service to our nation in the diaspora he now has the absolute right to s-h-i-t on us all?

[Armenian]

Re: Us and the Country

"A house divided cannot stand."

Shut up, tunot. Was it you who wished the death of the Armenians who were actually giving good answers in the locked topic? Was it you who, as Armenian pointed out, slagged off a French leader of Armenia and tried to pass him AS Armenian? Was it you who said the birthrates of Armenians have nothing to do with the diaspora situation and insulted Anonymouse with your "pups" comment? Was that you? I cannot be arsed to check.

NOW, you dissagree (and possibly twist Armenian's words) with Armenian by saying we shouldn't do what is best for Armenia? A sense of entitlement does not become us. If it is true that Armenians are working their asses off in Russia, not relying on the government and prospering, while Russians just grumble, why should Armenia give the opportunity for its citizens to become lazy? YOU ARE NOT OWED ANYTHING!!! THE WORLD DOES NOT OWE YOU A DAMN THING -- GET OVER IT!! He's not saying (I don't think) we should support a corrupt government, he's asking what can we do for Armenia to make it better?!! "By the people and for the people" and all that. (At least, that's what I am getting out of it.)

Also, this 90 million strong, more populous than China, more powerful than the US: HOW do you figure? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how!! I'd like some figures to back this up. Especially when you don't plan to have children (if you are the person who I am thinking about).

You also accuse that it's because of people like Armenian we had a genocide. I just don't even know what to say to this other than quit calling yourself an Armenian if you are going to tell Armenians who dissagree with you that they are the cause for all of Armenia's problems, past, present, and future. You sound like that whiney kid nobody would play with so they child would just whine louder, making the child that much more of an outcast. Just shut up, tunot. You knock all usefull ideas, berate the patriots, twist logic and words, and knock Armenia every chance you get. I do not think now is the place or time, especially considering how many people lurk and troll on this forum. There are ways to express your views w/o being anti-Armenian, which is what I see you as.

Shut up, tunot, just, shut up. Thank you.

Thank "you" my dear.

[Armenian]

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To try and stop it from happening anymore and try to attract our lost sheep back. You're not doing anything about.

Our lost sheep can go and you know what themselvs.

You promote our birthrate and non-mixture as if that will really help! It hasn't till now, so why would it now that you say so?

Thanks to garbage like you.

As long as we ignore our "white massacre," our continuous assimilation, we will not change anything, regardless of how many babies we pump out, or how hard we try not to mix with genotypes inferior or superior to us. We won't even change the situation if we try to teach all our kids to speak Armenian. What's the use of speaking Armenian, not mixing, and having lots of babies, if we are on the road to extinction anyway?

You are really reaching for the bottom of your ideological garbage bin.

Think of other solutions and I might take you more seriously.

Here's one:

Why don't you leave and never come back.

[Anonymouse]

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If he was well-versed in Armenian affairs, he would be talking like Ara, Zarian, Raffi, Odian, and Baronian, to name just a few. He's nothing more than one of so many vermins crawling among us, and like all vermin, he is better off crushed.

That is a matter of perspectives. Am I to understand that it's only when one thinks along your ideological spectrum for one to be "well versed" in Armenian affairs? I hope it's not what you're implying is it?

[tunot]

Re: Us and the Country

That is a matter of perspectives. Am I to understand that it's only when one thinks along your ideological spectrum for one to be "well versed" in Armenian affairs? I hope it's not what you're implying is it?

I am as a matter of fact. That and reading the news and hanging about a couple of cultural centers, organizations, political parties, and politicians. Then you should know just about enough, and you can't possibly disagree with me.

[tunot]

Re: Us and the Country

See, you stupid so-called "Armenian," if we had listened to our brains to begin with, then there would never have been a Turkey and an Azerbaijan to speak of. And if we would listen now, neither Turkey nor Azerbaijan would ever dare raise their arms against us. You want more Armenians to die in useless wars against our enemies? Go ahead and kill yourself. I'm not willing to sacrifice any of the men in my family for stupid wars just because the likes of you are too stupid to understand that we could have done it otherwise so that there would have to be no war, no corruption, no poverty, no diaspora, no assimilation.