A Modest Armenian House

[chika]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

uhh what do you mean with open mind? you mean look at armenia in a good way?

but that is what they are doing, all there is left in there is RALLY poor people, and REALLY rich people, no middle class, if there is, very very little.

Its very xxxxed up over there, when i came back to Armenia from siberia in 1997, it was HELL from the second we crossed the Vrastan/Hayastan border.

Where else does KGB knock on your door at 5:30 in the morning and say its our friend's birthday, give some money or we gonna open a case on you?

Or where else do they bring home a 19 year old's body with 2 Ak47 bullets on his side and say this coward commited suicide?

xxxx it, people need to get together, go back, a revolution needs to take place

couldn't agree with you more....
i didn't suggest to look at armenia with an open mind someone esle did. i still don't see the poin though. money is being stolen from the poor people and with this money houses are being buiilt for the bunch of idiots that live in Armenia and yet some clever person is suggesting that no matter for whom the house is built. it's built in armenia and not in israel. so we can go to armenia look at those palaces and say waw it's cute, it's not ours but at least it's in our country.
thats funny!!!

[chika]

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Are you a "social justice" crusader? What do you suggest we do? Institute another ponzy scheme of Communism to 'create equality'?

wouldn't be bad.. at least while communism existed people weren't living the way they are doing today.

[Armenian]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

uhh what do you mean with open mind? you mean look at armenia in a good way? but that is what they are doing, all there is left in there is RALLY poor people, and REALLY rich people, no middle class, if there is, very very little. Its very xxxxed up over there, when i came back to Armenia from siberia in 1997, it was HELL from the second we crossed the Vrastan/Hayastan border. Where else does KGB knock on your door at 5:30 in the morning and say its our friend's birthday, give some money or we gonna open a case on you? Or where else do they bring home a 19 year old's body with 2 Ak47 bullets on his side and say this coward commited suicide? xxxx it, people need to get together, go back, a revolution needs to take place

I don't know what is your point Fedayeen. The content of your post is not the issue here, we all know that there are serious sociological problems in Armenia. However, you seem to love digging out trash about our nation and display it for all to see. And the worst part is you do this without a proper context, without objectivity, without balance. I personally know of a few Artsakh war veterans who would tear you a new butthole for your less-than-smart comments. However, I also know a few Yerevantis and Disaporan filth that talk like you.

I guess how one sees things is all a matter of 'personal' perspective and personality.

I have seen some great posts by you, however, the above comment made by you is very disappointing. Revolution you say? Who is going to start it? When? Idiots in our society who don't have the sense and/or objectivity to put things in a proper perspective always fall victim to American and Turkish manipulations. I bet you and Chika would love to get some funds from 'Soros' and go topple Kocharyan in order to build a better Zionist lacky Armenia like they did in Georgia.

Personally, I am glad we have Kocharyan, Sarkissian, and Voskanian in power today.

[Fedayeen]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

I don't know what is your point Fedayeen. The content of your post is not the issue here, we all know that there are serious sociological problems in Armenia. However, you seem to love digging out trash about our nation and display it for all to see. And the worst part is you do this without a proper context, without objectivity, without balance. I personally know of a few Artsakh war veterans who would tear you a new butthole for your less-than-smart comments. However, I also know a few Yerevantis and Disaporan filth that talk like you.

I guess how one sees things is all a matter of 'personal' perspective and personality.

I have seen some great posts by you, however, the above comment made by you is very disappointing. Revolution you say? Who is going to start it? When? Idiots in our society who don't have the sense and/or objectivity to put things in a proper perspective always fall victim to American and Turkish manipulations. I bet you and Chika would love to get some funds from 'Soros' and go topple Kocharyan in order to build a better Zionist lacky Armenia like they did in Georgia.

Personally, I am glad we have Kocharyan, Sarkissian, and Voskanian in power today.

Whoa...chill there buddy, and stop assuming. You definatly do not know where i'm coming from.

Whatever i said, is TRUE, its reality, but perhaps i generilized because stuff like that not only happens in Armenia, but everywhere. But come on, if you own people do xxxx like that, it really gets you.

I hope you not calling me a Yerevantsi, because thats the last place i would like to be in Armenia. AND NO ITS NOT personal' perspective and personality Its called REALITY

People need to stand up, and overthrow that dumbass, we need a person whos a people's person and hell with zionist, thats the last thing we need

Personally your an idiot if your proud of Kocharyan
remember the 27th?

[Fedayeen]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

Also, have you seen this documentary?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13119.htm

I know its not Armenia, but...

[Anonymouse]

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wouldn't be bad.. at least while communism existed people weren't living the way they are doing today.

The present social depravation is precisely a result of close to a century of Communism. That is what it does to people. Before those like you who complain about the injustices of the world, it is preferred that you at least have some grounding knowledge in history and economics before you advocate the things you do. Have you forgotten of the long lines and shortages? Lines for bread and toilet paper? Or what about that good ole Soviet ingenuity and architecture that was almost as good as a sand castle? And just how are people living today? Is it because no one is equal?

[Anonymouse]

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This is to everyone: Either discuss in a calm and rational manner without the blatant insults and name calling, or we don't discuss this at all. Please folks, let's try to keep some coherence.

[Fedayeen]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

The present social depravation is precisely a result of close to a century of Communism. That is what it does to people. Before those like you who complain about the injustices of the world, it is preferred that you at least have some grounding knowledge in history and economics before you advocate the things you do. Have you forgotten of the long lines and shortages? Lines for bread and toilet paper? Or what about that good ole Soviet ingenuity and architecture that was almost as good as a sand castle? And just how are people living today? Is it because no one is equal?

i agree very much, but today its not the equal my friend...

Its people vs. people who thicken their necks...hastavzera yes trants maman who do nothing but steal money, make sure their 13 year old drives s600, and they have a muli-million dollar house in swedia, all this while in control of a nation

[karoaper]

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I have a theory that discussion of Armenia's politics, how good or bad the situation is, and how little or much the government is doing should be left to people living in Armenia.

Personally, everytime I say things which I haven't heard directly from a Hayastanci, I feel like a hypocrit who may try to feel the situation but can't really understand it. As someone who is not in Armenia, I try to limit myself to giving full support to Hayastancis, but reserve my judgment until the time that the politics and the situation affects me directly.

[chika]

Re: A Modest Armenian House

The present social depravation is precisely a result of close to a century of Communism. That is what it does to people. Before those like you who complain about the injustices of the world, it is preferred that you at least have some grounding knowledge in history and economics before you advocate the things you do. Have you forgotten of the long lines and shortages? Lines for bread and toilet paper? Or what about that good ole Soviet ingenuity and architecture that was almost as good as a sand castle? And just how are people living today? Is it because no one is equal?

Trust me i know more that you think i do.... so if you know so much tell me one thing what was causing those lines for bread that you are mentioning? the collaps of the soviet.
I am a person who is totally against the soviet union although i know there were many advantages and yet i think people were living fine. there was no hunger in the country, noone was homeless. people are homeless and the bloody kocharian is not doing anything at all to improve the situation.

what do you mean by this line i've coloured above? you don't mean people are living good do you? if you do then honestly you need to get more knowledge about Armenia.
For a human to survive the first basic thing is food, air,water and shelter. if a person doesn't have shelter nor proper food, how is this person supposed tu survive?
Just because there are plenty of bars, places of attracktion for you and me to visit while we are on holiday doesn't mean the rest of the people can afford to go this places. I honestly feel sorry for armenians.