Armenian surnames?

[ARK]

Re: Armenian surnames?

I agree with you (Lucin) that turkish(maybe over 70%) is a melange of arabic/persian but don't forget that it's just about the vocabulary...

[garod]

Re: Armenian surnames?

Küreci/Kuredji is Turkish or not,the important thing is to help Sev_zeytun for finding its meaning.

I am sure that its meaning is miner,because there was a profession as named Küreci/Kuredji in Ottomans.Maybe some people of your family had got a mine so they earned more money.

[garod]

Re: Armenian surnames?

The French word "curer" - pronounced as "kure" - means very much the same and it's not of *urkish origin.
Can it be that this is a third meaning i.e. different from mining??? It seems to me.

Je ne crois pas ça!
Il n'y a pas d'un mot comme curer en langue turc ,desolée!

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Armenian surnames?

Garod, je suis d'accord avec toi. C'est pas vrai. "To mine" est extraire. Le verbe curer est "to clean out."

[Siamanto]

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Küreci/Kuredji is Turkish or not,the important thing is to help Sev_zeytun for finding its meaning.

Apparently it seemed important enough to you when you said: "I'm sorry that it comes from a Turkish verb "
I simply reminded you of the realities.

I am sure that its meaning is miner,because there was a profession as named Küreci/Kuredji in Ottomans.Maybe some people of your family had got a mine so they earned more money.

You may be sure, but it may or may not be the case. You seem to take your convinctions for facts.

Everybody knows that a word can have many meanings.Küre has got 2 meanings in Turkish,one of is the globe but it is not about your surname.Other's meaning is pin.It comes from verb "Küremek" whose meaning is dig and clean,I cannot tell its meaning clearly,but for example in Turkey people say Kar küremek (Clean and also dig snow ).

The French word "curer" - pronounced as "kure" - means very much the same and it's not of *urkish origin.
Can it be that this is a third meaning i.e. different from mining??? It seems to me.

Je ne crois pas ça!
Il n'y a pas d'un mot comme curer en langue turc ,desolée!

You said that "Küre" such as in "Kar Küremek" means "dig and clean;" the French "curer" - pronounced similarily to "Küre" - has a relatively similar meaning. In any case, much closer in meaning that "to mine."

Too complicated and subtle?

[Siamanto]

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Garod, je suis d'accord avec toi. C'est pas vrai. "To mine" est extraire. Le verbe curer est "to clean out."

A little bit of focus and attention would not hurt! Nobody suggested that the French "curer" is "to mine." Just curious, how did you manage to make that conclusion?
It said:

" Can it be that this is a third meaning i.e. different from mining ??? It seems to me."

Most of all, "curer" means more than "to clean out"- there's a nuance; it means:
"Nettoyer quelque chose en grattant, en raclant."

http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/fast.exe?mot=curer

To remind you, it was said:

"Küremek" whose meaning is dig and clean ...in Turkey people say Kar küremek ( Clean and also dig snow ).

LOL Do you mine the snow???



P.S. One last detail, "To mine" is definitely not "extraire."

[Էլիա]

Re: Armenian surnames?

Can someone please tell me the meaning of the last name "Bilemjian"?

Անց մը կրնա՞յ հաճիս ըսել «Պիլեմճեան» մականունին իմաստը:

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Armenian surnames?

It means to extract (if you want to be exact) which is what you do to mine.

http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/mine

Plus garod said: "When we come the connection with your surname,I found on internet that there was a profession Küreci(Kuredji) and area Kürecilik in Ottoman Empire.Kürecilik is the work of a miner and Küreci (Kuredji) is miner especially mine of iron."

"Everybody knows that a word can have many meanings.Küre has got 2 meanings in Turkish,one of is the globe but it is not about your surname.Other's meaning is pin.It comes from verb "Küremek" whose meaning is dig and clean,I cannot tell its meaning clearly,but for example in Turkey people say Kar küremek (Clean and also dig snow )."

You said:
"The French word "curer" - pronounced as "kure" - means very much the same and it's not of *urkish origin.
Can it be that this is a third meaning i.e. different from mining??? It seems to me."

It was my mistake in thinking that you were talking about the 1st quote(sorry, God knows what I was thinking ). Anyway, I still don't think that it works because to dig and clean is not the same as to clean by scratching or scraping away.

BTW: Merci beaucoup pour le dictionnaire. C'est excellent.

[Siamanto]

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It means to extract (if you want to be exact) which is what you do to mine.

http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/mine

LOL "To mine" is not "extraire" - "To extract" is "extraire" - and I suggest that you use a decent dictionary if you want to have a decent discussion of words.

It was my mistake in thinking that you were talking about the 1st quote(sorry, God knows what I was thinking ). Anyway, I still don't think that it works because to dig and clean is not the same as to clean by scratching or scraping away.

It's OK. I make sure to separate the paragraphs - as I did it - so readers won't be confused, LOL yet, you got confused???

BTW: Merci beaucoup pour le dictionnaire. C'est excellent.

De rien.
For other choices: http://www.lexilogos.com/francais_la...tionnaires.htm

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Armenian surnames?

"LOL "To mine" is not "extraire" - "To extract" is "extraire" - and I suggest that you use a decent dictionary if you want to have a decent discussion of words. "
Vrai, vrai.






"It's OK. I make sure to separate the paragraphs - as I did it - so readers won't be confused, LOL yet, you got confused???"

Lets just say I skimmed a few things.