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Can someone please tell me the meaning of the last name "Bilemjian"?
Անց մը կրնա՞յ հաճիս ըսել «Պիլեմճեան» մականունին իմաստը:
I double checked with someone that "bilem" means "I know" and "bilen," "knows."
LOL Maybe one of your ancestors used to pretend knowing everything/a lot - saying always/a lot "bilem" - and they called him "Bilemji?" Maybe he really knew???
Also, when I googled, I found about "Hotel Bilem;" can there be a location called "Bilem?"
As for the word ‘küre’, there is a similar one in Persian meaning ‘furnace’ (1: An enclosed space or room for heating metal or glass to a very high temperature) and it is pronounced as ‘kure’ (quite similar to the ‘Turkish’ word and its pronunciation) so the person who works in such a place or owns it, would be called a ‘küreci’. Again it might come from a Persian word…
After all, I suggest you guys after searching and finding out the root of these words or whatever; try to change them into decent, beautiful Armenian names (We’ve got many)…
A close friend of my father changed his surname from 'Demirjian' to 'Armenian'!
I double checked with someone that "bilem" means "I know" and "bilen," "knows."
LOL Maybe one of your ancestors used to pretend knowing everything/a lot - saying always/a lot "bilem" - and they called him "Bilemji?" Maybe he really knew???
Also, when I googled, I found about "Hotel Bilem;" can there be a location called "Bilem?"
To be continued.....
hmm......"Bilme" in turkish is "to know" and "Bilmem" means "i know"
Anyway, the root is the same... I hope you'll do as much effort to learn Armenian...
ok agreed
about the effort...i have never done a effort to learn turkish... i very seldom speak it almost never in fact....
i have put in more effort in learning armenian....it's difficult....but someday i will learn armenian...and it will be the language i pass on to my children.....
I looked up the dictionary, and asked to some Turkish friends about that surname.
Result: there is a verb in Turkish which means "to sharpen": "bilemek". This verb is used when someone sharpens metal objects like knife and axe.
Not as many as in the past, but even today, in markets in small cities of Anatolia there are people who sharpen knives etc. for a small charge. Probably these people are called "bilemeci" or "bilemci". ("c" in turkish words is read as "j" in English)
The best online Turkish-English dictionary I can advise for you is: www.zargan.com
You said that "Küre" such as in "Kar Küremek" means "dig and clean;" the French "curer" - pronounced similarily to "Küre" - has a relatively similar meaning. In any case, much closer in meaning that "to mine." Too complicated and subtle?
Actually, Küremek(verb) includes the verbs dig and clean but it is different than these verbs.It means as shovel.In Turkish,dig is kazmak(verb),clean is temizlemek(verb) but I don't think that curer (en français) means küremek.
Kar küremek is like shovel the snow.I made a connection between küremek and küre because I thought that for finding mine,need to dig,clean and shovel to it.
Maybe küreci(kuredji) is not Turkish verb,because It is not well-known and common word in Turkish.Küreci belongs to Ottoman language and it means miner and there was no profession of it in another meaning ,so I believe that its meaning is miner.Maybe as lucin said the küre comes from the word below,because küreci is especially miner of iron and it is melted in the furnace.
I searched in the dictionary of Sevan Nişanyan and it makes clear of this furnace "Küre" comes from old Egypt language Kıpti not Persian but I am happy for you maybe it is not Turkish
As for the word ‘küre’, there is a similar one in Persian meaning ‘furnace’ (1: An enclosed space or room for heating metal or glass to a very high temperature) and it is pronounced as ‘kure’ (quite similar to the ‘Turkish’ word and its pronunciation) so the person who works in such a place or owns it, would be called a ‘küreci’. Again it might come from a Persian word…
That I can all to say,I am tired of writing about it,enough for now.
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