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Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

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  • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

    Originally posted by TomServo View Post
    Did you guys know Abdullah Öcalan is Armenian? Azeri Wikipedia says so: http://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_%C3%96calan

    It's like, sourced and everything.
    I think his nickname is Apo.

    It could all be turkish paranoia.

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    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

      Originally posted by TomServo View Post
      Did you guys know Abdullah Öcalan is Armenian? Azeri Wikipedia says so: http://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_%C3%96calan

      It's like, sourced and everything.
      Just don't dare mention it to his Holyness, Jimmy Wales - he'll ban you outright for questioning the credibility of his tyranical empire of truth. Remember, it is not "Azeri Wikipedia" - it is Wikipedia in Azerbaijani, directly linked to all of the Wikipedia language versions of the Ocalan article, and all of them hosted on His servers in America, far away from Azerbaijan.
      Plenipotentiary meow!

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      • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        Just don't dare mention it to his Holyness, Jimmy Wales - he'll ban you outright for questioning the credibility of his tyranical empire of truth. Remember, it is not "Azeri Wikipedia" - it is Wikipedia in Azerbaijani, directly linked to all of the Wikipedia language versions of the Ocalan article, and all of them hosted on His servers in America, far away from Azerbaijan.
        Not even Wikipedia in Turkish mentions such conspiratorial nonsense. And one of the cited sources is a YouTube video, by the way.

        Wikipedia is evil, of course, but it does come in handy once in a while. It's like the fast food version of an encyclopedia.

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        • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

          Wiki is like the bible you know..

          Originally posted by TomServo View Post
          Did you guys know Abdullah Öcalan is Armenian? Azeri Wikipedia says so: http://az.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_%C3%96calan

          It's like, sourced and everything.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

            Kurd know better....
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

              Originally posted by TomServo View Post
              Not even Wikipedia in Turkish mentions such conspiratorial nonsense. And one of the cited sources is a YouTube video, by the way.

              Wikipedia is evil, of course, but it does come in handy once in a while. It's like the fast food version of an encyclopedia.
              Yep, I notice the youtube source!
              At least with Burger King / Mcdonalds, etc, you get sold the same stuff no matter where in the world you are. Wikipedia's product quality varies from article to article and language to language - the only thing that matters to it is an ever expanding quantity of articles. Wikipedia is a greasy pink-slime meatburger fast-food that will, if overconsumed, eventually kill the customer.
              Plenipotentiary meow!

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              • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                Kurd know better....
                If "Azeri Wikipedia" is bad - just imagine how bad the "Kurdish Wikipedia" could potentually be.

                http://ku.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destp%C3%AAk
                Last edited by bell-the-cat; 07-30-2013, 09:14 AM.
                Plenipotentiary meow!

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                • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                  I doubt it...
                  Could be interesting for some of you.

                  Source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...&NewsCatID=339
                  Turkish Interior Ministry confirms ‘race codes’ for minorities

                  Turkey’s Interior Ministry has confirmed that minorities in the country are given codes depending on which community they belong to and that such information is sent to the Education Ministry, less than a week after the categorization system was revealed by weekly Agos.

                  “Minority citizens’ race status is given to the Education Ministry depending on the nationality or race information taken from the state register of the Ottoman period,” the ministry said in a statement that was sent to the Armenian-Turkish weekly on Aug. 1. The statement also said contemporary state registers did not record any information about the race or sect of citizens.

                  “There are no terms of race, breed, or sect in the state registers,” said the statement sent to Agos.

                  Minority citizens’ race status is taken from their nationality or race information during Ottoman times and sent to the Education Ministry, according to the 40th and 41st articles of the Lausanne Treaty, which was signed between Turkey and Western countries in 1923 and presaged the foundation of the Turkish Republic.

                  In Turkey, only minority communities’ members can register their children at minority schools, according to the Lausanne Treaty, said the statement.

                  “Depending on the citizens’ demands, religions such as Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism or Zoroastrianism can be recorded in the state family register, according to the 2nd and 35th articles of Law No. 5490,” the statement added.

                  The debate over the “race codes” was raised on Aug. 1 after Agos reported an official document penned by the Istanbul Provincial Education Directorate, revealing that Turkey’s population administration system had been recording citizens who have Armenian, xxxish or Anatolian Greek (Rum) origins with secret “race codes.”

                  “Citizens with Armenian origins are coded with ‘2,’” Agos said in its lead story on Aug. 1.

                  The secret coding system emerged when a Turkish citizen of Armenian origin attempted to register her child at an Armenian kindergarten only to be told by the school to prove that she has the “2 code.”

                  A document sent from the Istanbul Provincial Education Directorate to the Şişli District National Education office stated that “since 1923, the secret code of Armenians is ‘2’ on identity registration certificates,” according to Agos.

                  “Since 1923, identity registration certificates have had a secret ‘race code,’” the document added.

                  İsmail Cem Halavurt, a lawyer for the family in question, said they were continuing their struggle to register the family in the Armenian kindergarten.

                  “Now we are waiting for an official document saying, ‘Yes, your race code is ‘2,’ you can register in an Armenian school,’” Halavurt told Agos.

                  An official from the population administration told daily Radikal that the practice was being conducted “to allow minority groups to use their rights stemming the Lausanne Treaty.”

                  As part of the practice, Greeks are classified as “1,” Armenians are coded as “2,” while xxxs are notated as “3” in the system. Other non-Turkish groups are not coded, an official told daily Radikal.

                  The opposition parties’ lawmakers harshly criticized the alleged document.

                  “If this is true, it is fatal. It must be examined. I will bring this to Parliament’s agenda,” Sezgin Tanrıkulu, deputy head of the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), told the Hürriyet Daily News.

                  Altan Tan, a deputy of the Peace and Democracy Party (BDP), stated that there had long been such allegations but that they were always denied by the authorities. Tan urged Interior Minister Muammer Güler to make a statement on the issue.

                  “If there is such a thing going on, it is a big disaster. The fact that the state is illegally profiling its own citizens based on ethnicity and religion, and doing this secretly, is a big catastrophe,” Tan said.

                  August/02/2013
                  Other articles about the same topic:
                  todayszaman
                  http://www.todayszaman.com/news-3226...g-scandal.html
                  hurriyetdailynews
                  http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/min...&NewsCatID=339

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                  • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                    Thanks for posting that Herman. Turkey continues their racist policy against the few christians that are left in Turkey.

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                    • Re: Can Turkey Learn Tolerance?

                      not much to do with religion Alex in my opinion....but Turks have proven that they can use it to their advantage at the right moment with great success.

                      what is that saying....a B0zkurt has no friend but a Wolf with bloodline back to Ashina.
                      B0zkurt Hunter

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