Chief Rabbi of Israel Recognizes the Armenian Genocide

[Gavur]

But it came to a point in this forum where we're giving Turkish denialists seems like more time then the Armenian denialists.
From the last two Armenian deniers it sounds like they are very angry at Israel and their supporters, because of Israels insistence on A.G. denial and prevention of acknowledgent and therefore they think the best way is to fight fire with fire which I dont agree with only because I'm a Christian,and that would mean conversion into non-Christian ideas.
I believe a moderate reaction to Israels position is to be expected and acknowledged and a fine lined needs to be drawn.
Otherwise we are in danger of splitting camps.
Some Jews are more healed of the Holocaust then others just like some Armenians.We the heaked ones have a responsibility towards the unhealed.
This is not too much to ask from the Jewish community considiring their healing process was accelerated by way of recognition and reparations.

[1.5 million]

Gavur - you give these people way too much credit.

[Tatoul]

Gavur - you give these people way too much credit.

You can cry all you want, but let others decide for themselves instead of trying to tell everyone what and when they should think.

[Gavur]

I can accept that some Zionists infiltrated some Turks mind and soul and encouraged this unspeakale crime since they were the unseen power brokers.
Even that was provable beyond the shadow of a doubt (btw I personally posted some of the materials you claim as new)which fall short IMHO i mean theres smoke but no fire for instance a witnesses testimony maybe a Tashnaks or Hinchak notes or memoirs of those years which I'm sure they were very close with these people. But anyways my thinking is along these lines .
If someone tells you go push that guy off the bridge and you do it who goes to jail you or that fellow that encouraged you to actually do it?
And this is not starsky&hutch where you muscle in on the acessory of the crime to squeal on the big boss,unfortunatly its much more complicated then that because theres more then 1 acessory to the crime and over time the the perpetuators and the acessorys have went through metamorphises.


correction "Even IF"

[Gavur]

And those materials kinda like Chinese food 30 minutes after you eat/read you still feel hungry but they are very appetizing because they name names place in a very direct and sincere way but they tell you the way it is (which makes me wonder) normally I have to look at an issue from several and or many view points before I can ascertain the truth that is usually suspended in the air then make it my own and digest it and never feel hungry again therefore evolve my self,Those materials unfortunatly does not do this its kinda of fast food for someones in a hurry.It requires you not to think it tells you without contradiction or doubt and that forces me to belieave The authors are neither first hand witnesses nor they are academics analyzing their finds .
I hope I was clear.

[Tatoul]

These people?

Which people?

............Our brave Armenian brothers and sisters, who are carrying a fight for rightousness and justice, they diserve all our credits and supports...............

And BTW people like you who got wayyyyy tooooo much credit until your xxxx started to surface and the smell filled-up the forum.

He hides it pretty good, but there are those of us that can see right through him and Armenians should learn to trust their own instead of someone who supposedly has a grandma who is Armenian, but goes to turkey and dances on the bones of Armenians with turks.

BTW, I like that quote. Where is it from?

[1.5 million]

Talking to yourself again Arto.

I suggest Armenian here talk to Raffi of Cilicia.com concerning these idiots and their threats and attempts to shut his forum down.

Their hate filled racisct diatribes about killing Jews - "Krispy Kikes" and such - should be enough prooof of where these derranged aseholes are comming from. Do I really need to post the very many pages of their filfth to convince anyone?

And I find it amusing that they resort to calling in their buddies from the Armenian Nationalist forum, Stormfront and Vangaurd and similar to act all in a huff and offended by me. Do we really care what these people think? And is it really so imporant to have solidarity with racist haters - just because they are Armenian? If this is what it means to be Armenian - I will pass - most assuradly.

[1.5 million]

And those materials kinda like Chinese food 30 minutes after you eat/read you still feel hungry but they are very appetizing because they name names place in a very direct and sincere way but they tell you the way it is (which makes me wonder) normally I have to look at an issue from several and or many view points before I can ascertain the truth that is usually suspended in the air then make it my own and digest it and never feel hungry again therefore evolve my self,Those materials unfortunatly does not do this its kinda of fast food for someones in a hurry.It requires you not to think it tells you without contradiction or doubt and that forces me to belieave The authors are neither first hand witnesses nor they are academics analyzing their finds .
I hope I was clear.

Yeah about as credible as Turkish "historians" eh? And we all know how much crap they dish out...enough said really...I mean I don't feel i have to defend my position any mor ethen i do against Turkish denials - both are made of the very same cloth. Wehn Dadrian, Sarafian, Hovasanian, Marshalian and all the rest start focusing on the Jewsih conspiracy to take over the Ottoman Empire and clear it of Christians to place fanatic nationalistic Turks at the head - then I will buy it - not before!

[1.5 million]

These people were already banned - where are the mods?

[Gavur]

[QUOTE=Tatoul]Then I suppose you don't agree with defending ourselves against the azeris by fighting fire with fire, because it wouldn't be the "Christian" thing to do. So we should just let them come and kill us all and we'll be good Christians because we obeyed God and his commandment, "Though shalt not kill". Is that the idea? Well I have news for you! In some bibles it states that particular command correctly, which is, "Thou shalt not murder" and that makes a world of a difference! I don't really care if you want to consider me as a Buddist, a moslem, a Nazi or even a jew, because really don't care about any of that. I only care about my people and my country first and last and I'm not interested in and kosher doggie biscuits.


Gav;No you are wrong fighting for ones country is not un-christian its a matter of survival.
And you may very well know what I mean unless youre twisting it which would be the same as changing the subject If for a moment you can stop your abrasive ways you know the subject were talking about DISINFORMATION!