The Policy of Turkification of Iran

[Gondorian]

That's it, Shlomo. You pretend not to read my posts and you twist my words.

You are the one claiming there is a Turkification Process in Iran right now. Surely you don't expect everyone to uncritically believe you? Believe it or not calling me a jewish name is not insulting towards me, it is innacurate but I have nothing against jews, so try another insult

The Iranian STATE is not the Iranian PEOPLE.

So are you conceding my points about Iran? I don't hate Iranians, I just don't like the way your government persecutes religious minorities they view as herecies, people with altarnative lifestyles, and is working hard for World War Three, and has a policy of trying to destroy an ally of my country.

From all the problems I have in this world, the loud mouthing of the leaders of this regime is the least important to me.

People outside of Iran take "loud mouthing" very seriously, and we also take finnancing groups like Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad seriously.

I think you will achieve your goal of me being arrested, I won't reply any more posts about the Iranian regime. I don't want to die yet.

So are you conceding my points?

[Bulgarian]

Read the goddamn post. I'm not against you and I know you support the Armenians. The thing is, there's a constant emphasis on the Turkish speaking Iranians to be Turkish and I goddamn know they are NOT.

From my understanding they are not Turkish speaking Iranians they are Azeri speaking Iranians but Azeris are Turks so that must make them Turks in the broader sense.

They are you not Turks as such they are Azeris.

I constantly keep on posting links to articles/websites that prove what I say to be true.

You come back and as if you are correcting me, you tell me:
"They are Turks and no I am a Turk hater." and you expect me not to get mad.

I don't say 50% of Iranians are Turks, the pan-turkists do. Capice?
No one, and I mean NO ONE can estimate how much of Iranian blood is "Turkish".
For a thousand years, Turks have invaded and dominated Iran. Race is not an issue. A Persian speaking Iranian may tell you his father is a Turkish speaking Iranian, yet he may not speak a word of Turkish. You can't begin to understand this, so just take it from me: They are NOT Turks.

Re-read my post and tell me PLEASE, where have I offended you?
The xxxxing word "xxxxing" is used for emphasis and it does not point at you, yet without knowing me, this is what you throw at me:

Try telling Azeris they dont exist. Good luck with that.

Did I ever insult you or anyone here this way?
Now, please apologize, because I have nothing against you.


You see? "Azeris" (those in the bogus Azgarbageland) are Turks. A nation called "Azeri" has never existed throughout human history and "Azerbaijan" was artificially created as an extension of the Ottoman Tyranny, to destroy Armenia and to realize their sick pan-turkist dream.


I have been warned that I'll get banned if I say f**k in this forum, but your post drove me so mad I couldn't help it. Got it?

I am sorry if I misunderstood you. You should take a deep breath and think twice before you go on a rampage.

Pan-Turkist dreams are just dreams. Its not going to happen. I'm certain Turkey is going to get smaller before it gets bigger (it wont get bigger).

[imported_Hellektor]

From my understanding they are not Turkish speaking Iranians they are Azeri speaking Iranians but Azeris are Turks so that must make them Turks in the broader sense.

I paste the following for the millionth time:

"Azeri" History for Dummies

"Azerbaijan" is an artificially created "country" on Armenian territory as a result of an artificial insemination between the Turkish phallus and Russian Bolshevik anus.

When this Frankenstein monster was dumped from the Bolshevik rectum, they stole the name of their fake country from the northwest region of Iran and no one protested except some patriotic Iranians who were willing to give up their 2200 right to the name Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) and call it Azadestan in order not to be associated with the fake "nation"…

Then, this fictitious newly fabricated “nation” called itself “Azeri”, a nation that has NEVER existed throughout human history thus, a non-entity.
They were called Tatars before 1918 and that was after the region fell under Russian rule in the 19th century. Before that these tribal nomads distinguished one another from the color of their sheep.

Azari is a term used by Arab historians to describe the LANGUAGE of the people of real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan), north-west of Iran and ALWAYS south of the Arax River. It was a language of the PERSIAN family of languages called Pahlavi. The dialect spoken in Aturpatekan was called Pahlavi e Azari, to distinguish it from other Pahlavi dialects. Later when the people of Aturpatekan were forced to become speakers of Turkish, the word Azari was wrongly attributed to the Turkish dialect of these people, AND NEVER TO THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

Later, after a passionate copulation between the Jew-Tatar Kemal and the Jew-Tatar Lenin, the Armenian provinces of Artsakh and Nakhijevan were illegally annexed to the Frankenstein monster and Kars, Ardahan, Ardvin and Surmalu that had never been a part of Ottoman Tyranny, (our beautiful Ani that has been savagely destroyed since and our most sacred symbol, mount Ararat were included in the package) were given just like that to Turkey.

Consult all the maps of the region and you see that a country called Azerbaijan north of the Arax River did not exist before 1918, and Armenia extended in the east to the river Kur until the 19th century. Earlier, Armenia reached the Caspian sea.
Even Arab historians considered Aghvank as part of Greater Armenia (Medz Haik).

Try telling Azeris they dont exist. Good luck with that.

They were called the Tatars of the Caucasus before 1918 and that was a promotion for these roaming, nomadic, Turkic tribes with their tribe names, which they got when the region was conquered by the Russians.
"Azeri" is a fabrication. Believe it or not. They are Turks and they speak Turkish.

I am sorry if I misunderstood you. You should take a deep breath and think twice before you go on a rampage.

I took a deep breath too many in this very thread and still Gondorian is accusing me of claiming that Iran is being Turkified. He has a severe case of dyslexia.
BTW, apology accepted. Hope you'll stay in this forum.

[imported_Hellektor]

You are the one claiming there is a Turkification Process in Iran right now.

I leave this to the judgement of anyone who cares to read it.
Obviously you have a sever reading problem. Or do you take me for oslonor?

Dammit, I say:

The people of the real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) are Turkish speaking Iranians, NOT Turks.

Which part of this you aren't able to digest?

[imported_Hellektor]

Believe it or not calling me a jewish name is not insulting towards me, it is innacurate but I have nothing against jews, so try another insult

I didn't call you Shlomo to insult you. By the things you say I suspect you are Jewish. I may be wrong though.

[imported_Hellektor]

I just don't like the way your government persecutes religious minorities they view as herecies, people with altarnative lifestyles, and is working hard for World War Three, and has a policy of trying to destroy an ally of my country.

Man!!! What is wrong with you.
How many times do I have to say:
I am an Armenian and a minority, a DHIMMI myself, goddammit!

I don't even believe in god. I don't follow any religion. Stop associating ME with the Islamic Republic of Iran.

[Gondorian]

So you are a Dhimmi that makes your claim that Iran is being Turkified more credible?

Your country is not being Turkified, infact you have conceded the point that Sunnis are being persecuted in your country, and still you are continuing to claim Turkification without any proof.

I criticize Greece whenever I feel it is in the wrong, why aren't you able to criticize Iran?

[imported_Hellektor]

Iran is not being turkified

So you are a Dhimmi that makes your claim that Iran is being Turkified more credible? (!!! This person has some serious reading and/or cognitive problems, if he/she is not a sadist. H.)

Your country is not being Turkified, infact you have conceded the point that Sunnis are being persecuted in your country, and still you are continuing to claim Turkification without any proof.

I criticize Greece whenever I feel it is in the wrong, why aren't you able to criticize Iran?

Man, are you sick or something?

All my posts in this thread OBJECT to the starter of the thread who claims Iran is being turkified.

Now I know, you are not a Jew, you are a doenme, what I call a Jew-Tatar who enjoys aggravating me.

Once more, my points concerning this thread, read carefully you dyslexic, myopic...:

I. A nation called "Azeri" has NEVER existed throughout human history.

II. A country named "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax River NEVER existed before 1918.

III. A language derived from Turkish called "Azeri" does not exist. Turks of the Caucasus speak a DIALECT of Turkish.

IV. The peoples living to the south and to the north of the Arax River have ALWAYS been two separate, unrelated entities throughout history in racial, linguistic, religious, cultural and national terms.

V. The people of the real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) SOUTH of the Arax River are Turkish speaking Iranians NOT Turks. This is the result of the Turkic domination in the region.

[Gondorian]

Man, are you sick or something?

All my posts in this thread OBJECT to the starter of the thread who claims Iran is being turkified.

Now I know, you are not a Jew, you are a doenme, what I call a Jew-Tatar who enjoys aggravating me.

Once more, my points concerning this thread, read carefully you dyslexic, myopic...:

I. A nation called "Azeri" has NEVER existed throughout human history.

II. A country named "Azerbaijan" north of the Arax River NEVER existed before 1918.

III. A language derived from Turkish called "Azeri" does not exist. Turks of the Caucasus speak a DIALECT of Turkish.

IV. The peoples living to the south and to the north of the Arax River have ALWAYS been two separate, unrelated entities throughout history in racial, linguistic, religious, cultural and national terms.

V. The people of the real Azarbaijan (Aturpatekan) SOUTH of the Arax River are Turkish speaking Iranians NOT Turks. This is the result of the Turkic domination in the region.

Well a Nation called Azerbaijan exists today which makes that irrelevant.

Azerbaijan is hardly the only 20th century creation, what about Lebanon, and Iraq just two examples? Are you for the destruction of Lebanon and Iraq as well?

[imported_Hellektor]

Well a Nation called Azerbaijan exists today which makes that irrelevant.

Azerbaijan is hardly the only 20th century creation, what about Lebanon, and Iraq just two examples? Are you for the destruction of Lebanon and Iraq as well?

Shlomo, your blindness is really causing frustration get the better of me.

Azgarbageland does not have the right to use the word Azerbaijan, a region in northwest Iran, for the name of its bogus state.

Azgarbageland does not have the right to use the word Azeri (a meaningless fabrication) to describe its fake nation who were roaming, savage Tatars not so long ago.

"The Tartars having no civilization of their own, imitated that of Persia, just as the Turks adopted an imitation of Arab culture."

The name Azerbaijan is usurped from Iran for later claims on the real Azarbaijan, as we see your pan-turkist friends are doing tirelessly.
That's why this artificial, genocidal bunch cannot be considered a nation such as Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, etc.
Capice?