The Turks

[TurQ]

Vulgarian

You were having this paranio about Kurds getting eastern part of Turkey then Turks flocking west and taking over Bulgaria.
Do you still have that paranoia? Cause you are adding Hatay being taken by Syria, so according to your paranoia Hatay Turks also be flocking west into Bulgaria.

So just give your last decision on this losing eastern Anatolia is good or bad for you?

You are talking about self determination of people, hmmm may be Turks of Bulgaria think like you, what do you think?

I can have fun with you all day long ehehe

a totally confused individual

I have asked you the question but once again: Why do you think you are a minority among Bulgarians? Why dont other Bulgarians think like you? Are you the only intelligent person in your country?

Think about this

I didnt mean killing all the Turks. Armenia can become strong by annexing half of Azerbaijan. Armenia then can annoy Turkey to extreme levels. When the time is right Cyprus, Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia, the Kurds of Turkey, the Kurds of northern Iraq and Syria can invade Turkey. Turkey can hardly deal with TAK and the PKK now imagine if all these nations invaded Turkey in a unified and brutal fashion? The Turkish facist republic will be destroyed and perminantly relegated to the footnotes of a history.

Everyone will be happy Cyprus can be united, Armenia reclaim its some of its lands, Bulgaria can get Thrace, Greece and get Smyrna, Syria can get Hatay back and the Kurds who are the largest race on this planet without a nation of their very own can finally have the human right of self determination.

Rudo you will be living in Kurdistan not Turkey, Rudo you wouldnt sing the facist Turkish national anthem in schools you would be singing the Kurdish national anthem in school, there will be Kurdish flags everywhere, everyone will be speaking Kurdish you would get arrested for doing things that people in other parts of the world can do freely on a daily basis.

[imported_RUDO]

Ne Mutlu TÜrkÜm Dİyene

Rudo you will be living in Kurdistan not Turkey, Rudo you wouldnt sing the facist Turkish national anthem in schools you would be singing the Kurdish national anthem in school, there will be Kurdish flags everywhere, everyone will be speaking Kurdish you would get arrested for doing things that people in other parts of the world can do freely on a daily basis.

I am happy to live in TURKEY and I am happy to be TURKISH CITIZEN.I don't want KURDISTAN or other things.I only want to live in TURKEY peacefully and some CULTURAL RIGHTS.(Learning my language and so on)
NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYENE

[Bulgarian]

Vulgarian

You were having this paranio about Kurds getting eastern part of Turkey then Turks flocking west and taking over Bulgaria.
Do you still have that paranoia? Cause you are adding Hatay being taken by Syria, so according to your paranoia Hatay Turks also be flocking west into Bulgaria.

So just give your last decision on this losing eastern Anatolia is good or bad for you?

You are talking about self determination of people, hmmm may be Turks of Bulgaria think like you, what do you think?

I can have fun with you all day long ehehe

a totally confused individual

I have asked you the question but once again: Why do you think you are a minority among Bulgarians? Why dont other Bulgarians think like you? Are you the only intelligent person in your country?

Think about this

Why do you think you are a minority of Turks?

Almost all Turks hate Armenians. Here are just two examples of this:

Originally Posted by tevfik fikret
A nation lived under the reign of Turks for more than 4 hundred years...then betrayed them during the ww1..then they claim there's genocide..a nation disloyal to its master..a nation deserves to be sent to hell..a nation nothing but a problem for the earth..during ottoman we gave you food to eat and things to wear,without us you are nothing..now its time to revenge..you will give back the lands taken from azerbaijan..we will have them.wait and see..Victory for TURKS...
-Master of Revenge-


Originally Posted by mukedo
Dear Armenian communities, you were never a nation or had been a country in the past history, do you ever wonder why? there is 1 other race like you and that is the kurds and look how the emperialist forces are trying so hard to give them land too. It is called the victimization of the ego, get over it and continue with your real lives. Will America admit it is slaughtering Iraqis, will UK admit it has colognized half of the world so whats your problem. But history will give the Armenians the best lesson and they will disappear forever. Ottomans brought peace to the lands they conquered and look what happened when they left those lands? Ask yourself am i brainwashed?

Many Bulgarians hate the Turks since you speak to Bulgarians who GO TO TURKEY ON HOLIDAY OR BULGARIANS WHO LIVE IN TURKEY then obviously the will like Turkey.

Dont you know how many nationalist Bulgarians there are?

Hatay was illegally taken by Turkey from Syria. Most of them are Arabs.

[Bulgarian]

No you are not wrong as this is a well known fact. They have been doing those kinds of things for years, so it's just one of many many examples of their destructive behaviour. Both turkey and azerbaboonistan are full of Armenian ruins which is the real proof and they have forever been trying to get rid of the evidence of their crimes.

I know they have been doing these things for years Im trying to remind the Armenians who seem to forget too easily.

Try? These facts have already been well established.

Well I know many westerners who think Armenia is the agressor in Artsakh and many people generally have support for Turkey and the Azeris. With more Armenian ties in politics this will reverse the current negative trends for Armenia.

That's out of the question and would be a stupid move as we would be seen as the aggressors. If you want to provoke a war for Bulgaria, go right ahead, but please stop with these foolish statements..

Armenia should annex Artsakh. If they did 10 years ago Armenia will be a better nation now. International relations would have healled up by now. Look at Germany after causing 2 world wars and a Holocaust they are a respectable nation loved my many. If Armenia annexs Artsakh things will be bad for Armenia for a short while and then things will get all the more better. In any case if Armenians were more politically active then the damage will be minimal and could be repaired more easily.

Most of what you wrote above has already happened. We know that the azerbaboons are preparing to attack us again, but the next time they do, they will lose ALL of their country. Anyway, I think you should really stop with your war mongering for Armenians.

All the more reason for Armenia to follow my guidelines.

[Jooboian]

Brent Scowcroft Talks Turkey
Sibel Edmonds Fights Fascism

By John Stanton

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In September 2005, Scowcroft sent a letter to Hastert that stated, according to the Armenian National Committee of America “even discussion of the Armenian Genocide on the floor of the US House of Representatives would be counter-productive to the interests of the United States”. Indeed, the letter states in no uncertain terms that Turkey is at the “center of American’s current and long term interests…The genocide resolutions encourage those who would pull Turkey away from the West. The careless use of genocide language provides and (sic) excuse to do so, delivering a direct blow to American interests in the region…I strongly urge you to oppose floor deliberation…of this highly sensitive issue”.

It should be an eye-opener when former US general and presidential advisor—now the spokesman for US businesses and the Turkish government--asks the “people’s house” to remain silent on a matter, thoroughly documented in American and British newspapers of the day, that involved the systematic slaughter of 1.2 million Armenians. If the issue is that important-after all, we’re not talking about a puny drug war--then it is likely that Scowcroft told his Turkish Council members to fill the campaign coffers of the Speaker, former majority leader Tom DeLay, and current majority leader Roy Blount. And Scowcroft may have suggested to the Turkish government that it contract with former US congressmen Stephen Solarz and Robert Livingston (members of the ATC) to lobby on behalf of the Turkish government in the US House and Senate. The Turkish newspaper Sabah reported that Hastert was pressured by AIPAC to defeat another House resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide back in the year 2000. Trade associations in Washington, DC frequently unite on issues and, so it seems, Scowcroft’s ATC and AIPAC worked together to get rid of the Armenian matter.

Intrepid reporter Jason Vest writing in the Nation in 2002, noted that Richard Perle and Douglas Feith worked as foreign registered lobbyists for Turkey back in the late 1980’s and into the 1990’s. They “quietly and deftly kept the {American] arms sluice to Turkey open” said Vest. Feith had hired former executive director of AIPAC, Morris Amitay, to assist in the task. The new Feith and Perle, Solarz and Livingston, have picked up where the largely disgraced Perle and Feith left off. One thing is for certain though; during Feith’s reign over The Policy Organization, the ATC and AIPAC had their operative well-placed and, perhaps, under control.

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http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/stantonturks.htm

I suppose this guy is also a Nazi and a conspiracy theorist too.

[Parandzem]

I guess these people are all neo-Nazis too.



Dan Leon is co-managing editor of Palestine/Israel Journal. His Jerusalem Diary appears in every other issue of PS.
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The Editors read stuff...
HOT OFF THE WIRE

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TALKING TURKEY.
Now that Israel and Turkey are entwined in a military marriage, American Jewry's yes-men are conveniently mute about Turkey's treatment of Armenians and Kurds. So don't expect any full-page ads demanding human rights for all any time soon. All the same, Israel lobby sycophants must have been shaken when Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz counseled his new friends that Oslo offers a "golden opportunity" for the Middle East. As Ha'aretz paraphrased his remark (September 9), "Eighteen months of deadlock would end if Israel were to emulate Arafat and accept the American initiative."

http://www.nonviolence.org/archivedsites/psreport/pages/113.htm

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eh, gondo-liar???


Jews: Forever enemies of Hellas


Jewish propaganda against Greece:


Ravaged by the vicious and unending propaganda, most people have succumbed to the Zionist lies that the Jewish people have been victimized by just about every ethnic group! In their attempt to instill that belief in the Hellenic nation, they have launched a campaign of book publications and "memorial" raisings in Hellas and abroad.

The Holocaust Museum in the United States had an exhibit on the Jewish "experience" in war-torn World War II Hellas. Authors like Stanford Shaw (Greeks and Jews during WWII), Fred Reed (Salonica Terminus), and Anastasia Karakasidou (Fields of Wheat, Hills of Blood) present a negative view of Hellenic actions
during the Second World War. On top of creating this myth of "ancient" Jewish communities in Hellenic lands like Thessaloniki and Rhodes, they are also
propagating the lie of Hellenic collaboration with Nazis and their "final solution".

Perhaps more "tame" in his accusations is Dr. Michael Matsas (dentist). In his new book "The Illusion of Safety : The Story of the Greek Jews During the Second World War", published by Pella Publishing Company, he gives an account of his experiences during the war (as a child), and the conclusions he has drawn from them.

In Dr. Matsas book presentation, conducted on Thursday January 22 at Hunter College in New York City (which was attended by the editor of the Hellenic Nationalist Page), more such propaganda was (attempted to be) introduced. Presenter at the event was Jim Koutroulakis, and "guest speaker" Steve Boweman. Mr.
Boweman is a Professor of Judaic Studies at the University of Cincinnati (who will soon release his work on the "Jews of Byzantium").

Dr. Matsas contended that out of the "77,000 Jews" in Hellas prior to WWII, 65,000 of them fell casualties to the acts of Germans and Hellene collaborators ("thousands of Greek traitors" as he stated). When asked about the role of the Bulgarians and Italians, he asserted that they harmed no Jews. Dr. Matsas went on to say that had the allies informed the Jews of the acts of the Nazis ("holocaust"), they could have fled to the Italian and Bulgarian occupation zones in Hellas to seek protection!

Proof used for his assumptions was the "fact" that Jews in Bulgaria were not sent off to concentration camps, and that Jews that sought protection at the Italian consulate in Thessaloniki were aided. When confronted to answer why the Jews of Thessaloniki refused to declare themselves "Bulgars" (and thus avoid being sent to concentration camps) when asked by the Bulgarian administration, he stated that they were "proud Hellenes"! To that the editor of this page responded with "How proud could they have been if they were Hellenic citizens for less than a generation?"

The pleasant surprise was that out of the 50 people in the room, half were Hellenic patriots there to rebuff any attempt at anti-Hellenic propaganda! When one
individual suggested that the Christian community of Hellas was "historically anti-Semitic", a Hellenic patriot rouse to describe his father's actions to smuggle and
protect Jews in occupied Hellas.

This is the thanks and gratitude we receive for aiding the Jewish community in their time of need (as if we didn't need it ourselves), and for the memorials we create for them. While a memorial exists in Thessaloniki for the "65,000" Helladic Jews that died during the war, where is the memorial for the 600,000 Christian Orthodox Hellenes who died at the hands of the Italians, Germans, and Bulgarians? Where is the memorial for the hundreds of thousands of Pontian Hellenes (in a city largely populated by their descendents) that died at the hands of the Turks?

The only way for the Nation to survive is by honoring and commemorating the women and men that gave their lives for our country. Not by "honoring" our dubious "friends".

Picture of Matsas: http://www.hellas.org/news/images/matsas-1.jpg

[Bulgarian]

By Zaman, Ankara, Bingol
Published: Thursday, April 13, 2006
zaman.com [/SIZE]




Jonathan Sugden, Turkey’s representative for the Human Rights Watch (HRW) organization, was apprehended by the Karliova Gendarmerie in the eastern Turkish region of Bingol while conducting observations and research.
The Human Rights Joint Platform informed the press that Sugden has been traveling to Turkey for 20 years on his tourist visa because of his monitoring responsibilities, and asked for his release.
Sugden lived in the country, and follows the agenda closely as he is fluent in Turkish. He arrived in Karliova to monitor and report the Turkish gendarmeries and local forces combat of terror activities in Bingol, Diyarbakir and Tunceli.
Sugden was sent to the Bingol Police Office for deportation after the Turkish Interior Ministry was informed about the case. HRW’s Europe and Central Asia director Holly Cartner said, “The desire to cover up human rights abuses is evidently still very strong, despite recent moves towards more accountability in Turkey’s bid for membership in the European Union.”


LOOK THE FACIST STATE OF TURKEY IS DEPORTING INDEPENDENT MONITORS FROM KURDISTAN SO THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH THEIR MASSACRES OF KURDS.

[Parandzem]

Here are the HATERS, planning to work together in mutual hatred for Armenians.

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Sezer addresses US Jewish community

Asks for support against “Armenian genocide” bill.

New York
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September 6 — Calling for continued cooperation between Turkish and Jewish communities, President Ahmet Necdet Sezer was in New York Tuesday, ahead of the UN Millennium Summit.

Addressing representatives of the Jewish community in New York City, President Sezer expressed his pleasure over the support US Jews had given Turkey in fighting Turkey’s enemies over the years.

At a press conference following the meeting, Presidential Office Director and Head Consultant to the Ministry of State Tacan Ýldem addressed reporters questions over whether the US Congressional draft law on the alleged Armenian genocide had come up at the meeting.

“The President acknowledged the success of the efforts of the Jewish community in fighting against anti-Turkish elements,” Ýldem said, “expressed his pleasure at the close and fruitful cooperative relations between the Turkish and Jewish communities in the United States, and voiced his belief that these same determined cooperative relations would continue in the future to act cohesively against elements destructive to Turkey’s interests.”

Meanwhile, members of the Jewish community expressed their own pleasure in the role Turkey was playing in the Middle East peace process.

President Sezer also thanked the Jewish people for their aid to the victims of the Marmara earthquakes last year. The further development of tourism between Israel and Turkey, the Manavgat water project, and defense industry tenders were other subjects of discussion.

FRIENDSHIP BRIDGE

At an earlier meeting at the Lincoln Center with members of the US Turkish community, President Sezer stressed the importance of democratic ideals and called upon the Turks to continue to act as a “friendship bridge” between Turkey and the United States. He encouraged active participation in battling anti-Turkish lobbies and expressed his firm belief in the ability of the US Turks to foster and strengthen Turkish-US ties.


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Gee, elements destructive to turkish interests, who could they be talking about? turkey's enemies??

[TurQ]

Why dont you quote from my postings or other Turks who repeatedly said we dont hate Armenians?

Why do you think you are a minority of Turks?

Almost all Turks hate Armenians. Here are just two examples of this:

Originally Posted by tevfik fikret
A nation lived under the reign of Turks for more than 4 hundred years...then betrayed them during the ww1..then they claim there's genocide..a nation disloyal to its master..a nation deserves to be sent to hell..a nation nothing but a problem for the earth..during ottoman we gave you food to eat and things to wear,without us you are nothing..now its time to revenge..you will give back the lands taken from azerbaijan..we will have them.wait and see..Victory for TURKS...
-Master of Revenge-


Originally Posted by mukedo
Dear Armenian communities, you were never a nation or had been a country in the past history, do you ever wonder why? there is 1 other race like you and that is the kurds and look how the emperialist forces are trying so hard to give them land too. It is called the victimization of the ego, get over it and continue with your real lives. Will America admit it is slaughtering Iraqis, will UK admit it has colognized half of the world so whats your problem. But history will give the Armenians the best lesson and they will disappear forever. Ottomans brought peace to the lands they conquered and look what happened when they left those lands? Ask yourself am i brainwashed?

Many Bulgarians hate the Turks since you speak to Bulgarians who GO TO TURKEY ON HOLIDAY OR BULGARIANS WHO LIVE IN TURKEY then obviously the will like Turkey.

Dont you know how many nationalist Bulgarians there are?

Hatay was illegally taken by Turkey from Syria. Most of them are Arabs.

[imported_Hellektor]

This time around they'll have to swim across the Caspian.

...We know that the azerbaboons are preparing to attack us again, but the next time they do, they will lose ALL of their country. Anyway, I think you should really stop with your war mongering for Armenians.

They don't have the balls.
They kill people when they are sleeping.
If they could start a war they would have done it by now.
Their English head givers won't allow their pipeline be endangered. They have paid for 30% of its costs not knowing the "Azeri" oil will only suffice to produce Vaseline that they'll use to lubricate their xxxxxx asses to better accommodate the Turkish c***.

Once they attack, the English xxxxxxs have to shove the pipeline where the moon would not dare to look into.
However, Armenia needs to be prepared for war just in case. The corny saying if you want peace, prepare for war applies here.
This time around the Armenians should not heed when the "Azeris" beg for a cease-fire, like they did the last time. Armenians could have liberated the Armenian city of Gandzak, but alas and alack they softened when the "Azeris" begged.
They will be poured in the Caspian this time around and hopefully this bogus state won't get the chance to celebrate its first 100 years of miserable, genocidal existence.