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  • #71
    This is a very serious issue IMO - and it is both serious and personal to me. I may ridicule the ignorant who comes here preaching yet is essentially unaware but I deal straightly with those who can actually talk facts and not distorins and fiction. And it is not I who is denying the truth - the basic truth that is uncontestable - that the Ottoman Turks commited a genocide against the Armenains of Anatolia - so don't be so smug - it is you Turks here who are deficient...and yes you are deficient...as I have encountered and (very civily) discussed these issues with Turks who are intellectually, aware and with access to facts and information far beyond any Turk who has yet participated in this forum. Not all of these Turks agreed with my positions - quite the contrary - but they could discuss these issues in realistic terms - not in the fantasy world that most of you Turks here exist in. I'm not saying that there haven't been some of you who have contributed to some interesting and relevant discussions - but don't kid yourselves - fundementaly you are in the wrong and we and I are essentially in the right. And some of us here do in fact appreciate aspects of the Turkish position and can appreciate discussions of Turkish socity, culture, politics and what have you - and some of us can speak from experience - not just total conjecture. However - yes - the essential fundemental facts of the Armenian Genocide are consistant with the position and beliefs of the majority of Armenians - and these beliefs coincide with that of international scholars and historians and are an accurate account of what occured. Might there be any number of analytical positions and related facts that have bearing on this events - ye - and might Turks have worthwhile perspectives that many/most Armenians lack on these issues - yes again...and we are open to discussing such honestly - but denying BS - well - it will be dealt with as it deserves.

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    • #72
      42 Yeter Artik,
      bari Turkce harfleri kullanma, yani birsey yapiyorsun bari beceriksizce yapma
      "everything bad ın our world".

      Unfortunetly 42 insists on being a fake individual, he pretends to be like a ASALA or an Armenian fashist, yes we hae enough Armenian fashists around, but 42 is just a clumsy roleplayer, he uses Turkish letters(keyboard)and pretend to be an Armenian fasist.

      Jsut look at "everything bad ın our world" in is written with a turkish letter "ı".

      I wouldnt bother to reply a post to it if it were to represent only himself, but his behaviour unfortunetly involves all Turks, and shames other Turks.

      We Turks deal with our problems directly not cowardly like you do, hidden under a stupid mask.
      You can easily argue about how ASALA still is admired by some Armenians and called as "Jan Fedayi" to praise their terror, you can directly deal with this problem but you choose a cowardly unTurkish way.

      AS yo ucan see Armenians here are aware of this and laughing at you, I dont know how long you'll insist on degrading at least yourself and your name.


      Originally posted by 42diplomats
      Thanks Bulgarian. You are 100% right. Turks are nightmare of our world. They must be eliminated. They are responsible of everything bad ın our world.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by TurQ
        42 Yeter Artik,
        bari Turkce harfleri kullanma, yani birsey yapiyorsun bari beceriksizce yapma
        "everything bad ın our world".

        Unfortunetly 42 insists on being a fake individual, he pretends to be like a ASALA or an Armenian fashist, yes we hae enough Armenian fashists around, but 42 is just a clumsy roleplayer, he uses Turkish letters(keyboard)and pretend to be an Armenian fasist.

        Jsut look at "everything bad ın our world" in is written with a turkish letter "ı".

        I wouldnt bother to reply a post to it if it were to represent only himself, but his behaviour unfortunetly involves all Turks, and shames other Turks.

        We Turks deal with our problems directly not cowardly like you do, hidden under a stupid mask.
        You can easily argue about how ASALA still is admired by some Armenians and called as "Jan Fedayi" to praise their terror, you can directly deal with this problem but you choose a cowardly unTurkish way.

        AS yo ucan see Armenians here are aware of this and laughing at you, I dont know how long you'll insist on degrading at least yourself and your name.
        Never mind Turq. He is a kid playing childish games. He is still avoiding Hovik's question about himself and about his Armenian heritage etc.

        The nanny Hovik was talking about could do great in here, since we do not have time entertaining children here..

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        • #74
          it is like the case of an Ostrich hiding his head in the sand but his ass is exposed everyone, but he insists on degrading himself, thats stupid, he should at least have a respect to himself and then his nation


          Originally posted by Umay
          Never mind Turq. He is a kid playing childish games. He is still avoiding Hovik's question about himself and about his Armenian heritage etc.

          The nanny Hovik was talking about could do great in here, since we do not have time entertaining children here..

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          • #75
            Lets just wait and see. Maybe he'll turn out to be an Armenian living in Turkey. That would be very interesting.

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            • #76
              Fesuphanallah
              Olum safmisin nesin, bari turkce klavye kullanma.

              Originally posted by 42diplomats
              Stop talking non-sense. I dont know Turkish. Dont call me Turk or I will sue you...

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              • #77
                I'm a Turk.. I'm pretending to be Armenian.. Is it working?

                nope 42 it is not working...

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by 1.5 million
                  This is a very serious issue IMO - and it is both serious and personal to me. I may ridicule the ignorant who comes here preaching yet is essentially unaware but I deal straightly with those who can actually talk facts and not distorins and fiction. And it is not I who is denying the truth - the basic truth that is uncontestable - that the Ottoman Turks commited a genocide against the Armenains of Anatolia - so don't be so smug - it is you Turks here who are deficient...and yes you are deficient...as I have encountered and (very civily) discussed these issues with Turks who are intellectually, aware and with access to facts and information far beyond any Turk who has yet participated in this forum. Not all of these Turks agreed with my positions - quite the contrary - but they could discuss these issues in realistic terms - not in the fantasy world that most of you Turks here exist in. I'm not saying that there haven't been some of you who have contributed to some interesting and relevant discussions - but don't kid yourselves - fundementaly you are in the wrong and we and I are essentially in the right. And some of us here do in fact appreciate aspects of the Turkish position and can appreciate discussions of Turkish socity, culture, politics and what have you - and some of us can speak from experience - not just total conjecture. However - yes - the essential fundemental facts of the Armenian Genocide are consistant with the position and beliefs of the majority of Armenians - and these beliefs coincide with that of international scholars and historians and are an accurate account of what occured. Might there be any number of analytical positions and related facts that have bearing on this events - ye - and might Turks have worthwhile perspectives that many/most Armenians lack on these issues - yes again...and we are open to discussing such honestly - but denying BS - well - it will be dealt with as it deserves.
                  You fail to understand that trying to get "real" history into a Turks head is not going to change anything because he is too paranoid to believe an Armenian or any other foreigner. He may never ever believe in what he will always call 'your version of history'. However what he can do is to be at peace with you but that wont happen if you word bash him to death. That will just make him more dangerous and your nick does suggest they can be dangerous. Same for an Armenian. Dont just jump in now and say something stupid like "there can be no peace before the Turkish Government accepts the A.G." I am talking about individuals. Even if they do not agree on what happened 90 years ago they still can come to respect eachother. It will sound like a huge cliché but we Turks and Armenians focus so much on our differences that it hurts now. My subjective view is that Armenians hate Turks more than vice versa and I know many of you are saying "yeah... I wonder why". There is so much in common between Anatolain Turks and Armenians that all this IMO going to waste. Armenians in my very sincere opinion are waisting their time trying to get Fuji, New Zealand and the USA parliaments to recognize the A.G. and Turks are just doing the same trying to ward off what they call allegations through a few flimsy historians. 1.5... how many 90 years more are you willing to wait? And if you are willing to wait what exactly are you waiting for?

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by TurQ
                    Fesuphanallah
                    Olum safmisin nesin, bari turkce klavye kullanma.
                    Abi adam Türk değildir de belki Türkiyede yaşıyordur.... (maybe he's not a Turks but lives in Turkey....)

                    I am quite curious as to what this guy has to say even though I dont have high hopes.

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                    • #80
                      Hitite, you would udnerstand the English that's used by a Turk, he uses such an ENglish + the Turkish keyboard
                      it leaves a little room for suspicion, but yes it could be but a small possibilty.

                      Yani malimizi bilmezmiyiz abicim


                      Originally posted by hitite
                      Abi adam Türk değildir de belki Türkiyede yaşıyordur.... (maybe he's not a Turks but lives in Turkey....)

                      I am quite curious as to what this guy has to say even though I dont have high hopes.

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