Genocide

[UrMistake]

Re: Genocide

Relocations dose it ring any bells?
And no Kurd nor Turk will have the right to vote.Other minority's will vote,the country will have similar struction of an federation,so the benefits of people will be protected.
Examples u can take from USA.

I have already a ticket for u just in case.

[Jos]

Re: Genocide

alpixoid, same as Eddo said, your country morally looks very bad in-front of the whole world because when denying the Armenian Genocide committed by turkey and turkey alone, they are continuing the Genocide, as the last phase of the Genocide is denial.

Also, your country is always looking to get into the European Union. And why do you think the European Union doesn't want turkey to get in it? Because turkey had a very belligerent past and the Europeans are always fledgling the red flag in-front of turkey's eyes. Meaning, the Armenian Genocide is the most important factor that Europe doesn't want turkey to be part of their union, and naturally Europeans knowing the real facts, they are letting turkey know that they should do reparations to Armenia and Armenians. That's the reason why Erdogun went to Armenia to play AS IF political reconciliation with Armenia and the football diplomacy to show to the Europeans that they are trying. But turkey failed again as they pushed their agendas time and time again to pass the illegal Kars Treaty, overlooking the legalized Sevres Treaty and the Wilson Arbitration.

Turkey along with "azerbaijan" are also pushing for Nagorno-Karapagh Artsakh lands that Stalin simply gave it away to the "azeris" to please attaturk and we only fought back to the "azeri" genocidal pogroms from 1988-1992 and we won the war, still Erdogan and the "azeris" are pushing and pushing to take over those lands or most of these lands to simply steal and own them, even though we won the war. What turkey and "azerbaijan" really want is to take over all of Armenia and Nagorno-Karapagh. To either kill all the Armenians or send them away so that turkey and "azerbaijan" can realize their idiotic wet dreams of pan-turism.

Armenia MUST NOT accept any friendship from turkey when a HUGE GENOCIDE issue is hanging over turkey as they continue to deny it. Turkey MUST accept the Genocide and MUST adhere to the Wilson Arbitration. Meaning to give our lands back to the owners - that is to us Armenians, the real landlords of the land - !!!!!

Minor correction Anoush, it was Gul (the President) who visited Yerevan and not Erdogan (the PM) following the Serzh Sargsyan invitation.

Secondly, how exactly do you expect Wilsonian arbitration or the Sevres Treaty to be implemented today boy genius? In the absence of ethnic cleansing on a massive scale, Turks & Kurds would end up being the majority of the population of the new expanded Armenian state. You would basically be handing over the present day Armenia on a silver platter to the Turks who could simply take over democratically by weight of numbers.

[Jos]

Re: Genocide??..

WOW!!! if your great grandmother is still alive and survivor of the Genocide, then I suggest you contact ANCA and have your grandmother to be present when next time they pass that Genocide Resolution in front of the US Congress. They do look for survivors as 94 years has passed and not many are still alive Pazooki.

My great grandmother, who is still alive today at 98, was in the Genocide. The stories she told me were not something to forget.

WOW indeed Pazooki, incredible memory for a 4 year old child.

[Anoush]

Re: Genocide

alpixoid, same as Eddo said, your country morally looks very bad in-front of the whole world because when denying the Armenian Genocide committed by turkey and turkey alone, they are continuing the Genocide, as the last phase of the Genocide is denial.

Also, your country is always looking to get into the European Union. And why do you think the European Union doesn't want turkey to get in it? Because turkey had a very belligerent past and the Europeans are always fledgling the red flag in-front of turkey's eyes. Meaning, the Armenian Genocide is the most important factor that Europe doesn't want turkey to be part of their union, and naturally Europeans knowing the real facts, they are letting turkey know that they should do reparations to Armenia and Armenians. That's the reason why Erdogun went to Armenia to play AS IF political reconciliation with Armenia and the football diplomacy to show to the Europeans that they are trying. But turkey failed again as they pushed their agendas time and time again to pass the illegal Kars Treaty, overlooking the legalized Sevres Treaty and the Wilson Arbitration.

Turkey along with "azerbaijan" are also pushing for Nagorno-Karapagh Artsakh lands that Stalin simply gave it away to the "azeris" to please attaturk and we only fought back to the "azeri" genocidal pogroms from 1988-1992 and we won the war, still Erdogan and the "azeris" are pushing and pushing to take over those lands or most of these lands to simply steal and own them, even though we won the war. What turkey and "azerbaijan" really want is to take over all of Armenia and Nagorno-Karapagh. To either kill all the Armenians or send them away so that turkey and "azerbaijan" can realize their idiotic wet dreams of pan-turism.

Armenia MUST NOT accept any friendship from turkey when a HUGE GENOCIDE issue is hanging over turkey as they continue to deny it. Turkey MUST accept the Genocide and MUST adhere to the Wilson Arbitration. Meaning to give our lands back to the owners - that is to us Armenians, the real landlords of the land - !!!!!

[Anoush]

Re: Genocide??..

You can give me all the "false proof" you want and say it never happened or you don't know but I am 100% sure it did happened. How do I know? My great grandmother, who is still alive today at 98, was in the Genocide. The stories she told me were not something to forget. She lost her baby sister because of your people.

WOW!!! if your great grandmother is still alive and survivor of the Genocide, then I suggest you contact ANCA and have your grandmother to be present when next time they pass that Genocide Resolution in front of the US Congress. They do look for survivors as 94 years has passed and not many are still alive Pazooki.

[Eddo211]

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our government said that there were no genocide for so long and if they say that it really happened they will lose their respect...

They can’t loose something they don’t have……but in Turkish politics and the negetive effects on them I agree with this (but it is leverage, not honor that can be lost).

You know alpixoid, I personally could care less if Turkey or the Turkish people recognize the AG other than a political advantage for the Armenians……..but hey, that is just me.
Don’t worry about it, you sound very young. Read what was suggested to you by others if you wanna learn but be careful what you say in school, you might get in trouble.

[Joseph]

Re: Genocide??..

You see, even if there were Armenians in the Russian Empire's army, why wouldn't there have been? Russian Armenia was a subject of the Russian Empire like Ottoman Armenia was a subject of the Ottoman Empire and both empires conscripted soldiers. The Battle of Sarikamish, initiated by the Ottoman Empire, took place with an Ottoman attack on the Russian Empire's Caucasus portion. Guess which country is located there... On the contrary, Armenians had all the right to be in the Russian army at the time and were merely defending their lands. Of course none of this even creates a feeble excuse for committing a genocide.

It should also be mentioned that Turkey broke the treaty and invaded the fledgling Armenian state after WWI.

[Federate]

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We didn't attack anyone. If Armenians did attack you it was only the ones in the Russian army or ones in the other armies.Armenia itself did not attack you.

You see, even if there were Armenians in the Russian Empire's army, why wouldn't there have been? Russian Armenia was a subject of the Russian Empire like Ottoman Armenia was a subject of the Ottoman Empire and both empires conscripted soldiers. The Battle of Sarikamish, initiated by the Ottoman Empire, took place with an Ottoman attack on the Russian Empire's Caucasus portion. Guess which country is located there... On the contrary, Armenians had all the right to be in the Russian army at the time and were merely defending their lands. Of course none of this even creates a feeble excuse for committing a genocide.

[Siggie]

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Correct, this is called realpolitik.

Another thing, just because a country does not recognise the AG as genocide does not mean it automatically denies it. I'm sure a country like Botswana does not deny the AG happened

Of course; I forgot to point that out. Thank you.

[Federate]

Re: Genocide??..

If some countries' (e.g. US) governments do not officially recognize what happened as "Genocide" does not make it untrue. Those decisions are motivated by politics.

Correct, this is called realpolitik.

Another thing, just because a country does not recognise the AG as genocide does not mean it automatically denies it. I'm sure a country like Botswana does not deny the AG happened