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[thinktwice]

This is absolutely what we know about Armenians, if they don't like your truths or if it contrary against their truth they try to switch topic, try to insult and ask,tell some other stupid things. But also NoThinkArmenians don't come up with anything in their hands.

[Anonymouse]

This is absolutely what we know about Armenians, if they don't like your truths or if it contrary against their truth they try to switch topic, try to insult and ask,tell some other stupid things. But also NoThinkArmenians don't come up with anything in their hands.

There is nothing to switch as there was nothing to discuss. You came here spewing Turkish filth with a preconceived mind. Thus I merely treat your presence as a joke and you don't seem to like it.

[thinktwice]

Oh really... Btw you couldn't even show up with enough archive. So what do you think clever one? It is godsend genocide?

[Anonymouse]

Actually, the reason I can't respond any other way is because I can't understand your horrible English.

[Crimson Glow]

Forgive some of the folks here for not taking you and your friends seriously, but come on. Look at the situation:

1. You've come on to these boards, seemingly thinking you're the first Turks that ever thought of doing such a thing in order to "educate us" about our brainwashed propoganda. News flash: Dozens upon dozens of Turks have thought of this already, and have offered the same, exact, all over the place/inconsistent types of denials you've provided. So if some of these people don't go into the depths that I do, you'll have to excuse them. They're not as new as I am here, so I'm sure they're quite sick of dealing with this. And quite frankly, so am I already.

2. Let's take a look at what exactly is in YOUR hands, shall we? You either claim that all the evidentiary points, documents, archives, testimonials from witnesses (Turkish, and otherwise), etc, we offer are all propoganda lies, or you refuse to comment on/ignore them all together. And what do you offer in exchange to "educate us" and prove we're brainwashed? Drum roll, please....

(Get ready for the mind blowing revelation!)

Turkish archives! =s

This is your non biased, non propoganda evidence to prove Armenians wrong? To prove Armenians are brainwashed? Because the records of the accused, records that have been off limits for decades after the fact, says so? My god! Please tell me you're joking! Your friend, apaydin2148, keeps posting away from these archives, as if they mean something. Thinktwice (which I wish you would), let me ask you this (and I know it may not work this way in Turkey, but work with me on this for comparison's sakes). If someone killed your parents, and you knew damn well who did it....if YOU were a personal witness to this, and you reported it to the authorities, what would happen next? A warrant would be issued to search his place, and he'd be arrested immediately, right? Well let's suppose for some odd reason that the only proof the authorities allowed themselves to rely on was limited to what they could find in the accused's home, because after all, the accused would know best if he did it or not. And let's suppose for some odd reason they couldn't get into the home of the accused right away (I know this isn't possible, but again, for comparisons sakes). What would happen if it took a week before they could get in? Would the incriminating evidence (murder weapon(s), anything he might have snagged from the crime scene that might have had his fingerprints, any correspondance that shows or establishes motive, etc) still be there? Only if he is the most ignorant person on the face of this planet. Rather, anything there was to link him to your parents' death will more then likely be gone. Now what do you do? After all, this man opened his home to you and the authorities/experts, and they couldn't find anything. He just proved you're lying, even though you watched the event actually unfold in front of your eyes. What do you do now that you've been proven a liar, because the authorities/experts are stricktly to go off of what they find in the home of the accused?

AGAIN (as I've stated in SEVERAL posts before) I'm not asking you to completely turn your mind around, or take our side. But to concretely believe that just by being a Turk, you know the history better then anyone, or that all Turkish records are true, and that EVERYone elses is false, is blind faith. More then blind faith, it is the very definition of "brainwashed", which you so quickly accuse the Armenian side of being, yet so blatantly display yourself.

[nunechka]

I have only met 1 turkish person who was not a moron

i worked for him through the schools occupational placement center, and he said this to me concerning the genocide, "Nune I know that April 24 is coming up, and i want you to know that if you want to take day off, i understand. And i wish you the best, and i'm sorry for the past."

AND he even bought me an armenian folk music CD... with traditional patricotic Armenian songs... he said that when he bought the CD some turkish people said bad things to him...

now as for you idiots coming to OUR forums and posting your garbage... you are the brainwashed ones...

[thinktwice]

This is your non biased, non propoganda evidence to prove Armenians wrong? To prove Armenians are brainwashed? Because the records of the accused, records that have been off limits for decades after the fact, says so? My god! Please tell me you're joking! Your friend, apaydin2148, keeps posting away from these archives, as if they mean something. Thinktwice (which I wish you would), let me ask you this (and I know it may not work this way in Turkey, but work with me on this for comparison's sakes).

You denying real archives papers and showing me nothing. This is nonsense. You know you started your propaganda at 1960s and nobody took you serious (including Turks). But your sneaky lobby activities and self-interested politics who are you using/who is using your people were turned people against us.

If someone killed your parents, and you knew damn well who did it....if YOU were a personal witness to this, and you reported it to the authorities, what would happen next? A warrant would be issued to search his place, and he'd be arrested immediately, right?

And i must ask that why did you signed Kars Treaty (1921) and finished whole thing. Why didn't you want justice and pay?

After all, this man opened his home to you and the authorities/experts, and they couldn't find anything. He just proved you're lying, even though you watched the event actually unfold in front of your eyes. What do you do now that you've been proven a liar, because the authorities/experts are stricktly to go off of what they find in the home of the accused?

They couldn't find anything? What were you expecting to find. Do you wanted to find "genocide" in archives? . If you have soooo reliable archives of others and yours, then go and check out their archives ok? Btw how can you call us liar? At least we are showing you and to whole world our archives, and i want you to tell me where are your archives and your reliable archives all around the world?

Crimson Glow i know what happened before and i know what happened after because i'm investigating deeper and looking reasons/acts/conclusions so i'm standing here like day one and i will. I hope you will investigate what happened before WWI. We both know they helped rebellions (of course they were armenians) and take side with enemies (French, English, Russians) you can't get rid of it...

I have only met 1 turkish person who was not a moron

i worked for him through the schools occupational placement center, and he said this to me concerning the genocide, "Nune I know that April 24 is coming up, and i want you to know that if you want to take day off, i understand. And i wish you the best, and i'm sorry for the past."

AND he even bought me an armenian folk music CD... with traditional patricotic Armenian songs... he said that when he bought the CD some turkish people said bad things to him...

now as for you idiots coming to OUR forums and posting your garbage... you are the brainwashed ones...

Maybe you should go and ask that Turkish person what does he know about history and happenings?

Do you know why are you celebrating april 24th? What happened that day? and Why it happened?

[CatWoman]

you are the brainwashed ones...

Nune they're not brainwashed... they're brainshowered!

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[nunechka]

we dont celebrate that day we commemorate it... that is the day the turkish governemnt SIGNED into order and had the LARGEST gathering of the Armenian intelligentsia jailed and them MURDERED!!! and the major killings happened after that point...

still my question has not been answered...

why do you ask? do you happen to have a different version of it? of course you would after all THAT period of time has been medically removed from en mass of the turkish people's brain...

the man i refer to you above was one of the richest people in turkey... i was in charge of the accounting and had signature authority to his key west bank accounts... he trusted me because i was armenian... he told me if i was turkish he would never had given me all that authority... i knew his bookkeeping better then he did... trust me! he was a respected authority figure in turkey and in europe and in the US...

AND HE WAS SORRY! FOR THE GENOCIDE!

i think he may have been affiliated with the SWEDISH turks who have sent letters to turkey asking them to please recognize this crime because it is true and that they are ashamed of it in europe...

[nunechka]

LOL! precisely catwoman