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  • #51
    Originally posted by tansel
    so go make your country democratic and then come to me and critisize my country.
    And this is what i teach my pupils as "tu quoqe fallacy" in introduction to logic classes.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
      And this is what i teach my pupils as "tu quoqe fallacy" in introduction to logic classes.
      tansel has gone away i think

      Realities and ghosts seem same to him probably. His false god Kemal could not save him from the ghosts of reality.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
        1. You donot have to be loaded by sins of Ittihadists. Which one is your grandfather? The mass murderer Kemal the Boghazlian governor or Muftu Abdullahzade Mehmed who says "I am afraid of God" for the Armenain massacres? I have chosen the second one.

        2. Nothing to say! You exhibit your aim by saying not to see any necessity to be serious. You have come just to shout and cannot show any braveness to defend your ideas.

        3. What will we do about Turkish ethnical nationalism which is established by the constitution and many decrees? Is saying "Could you give me a glass of water please" in Kurdish, in the comprehension of Kurdish nationalism? But a deputy is being tried for saying this. Thanks to God, speaking Kurdish in public areas is not prohibited for a long time. But it was.

        4. I stated there are lots of reports indicating the situation. One more:

        According to Human Development Index Building the Capabilities of Women Section (2008): Turkey is in 101st rank through 108 countries (Syria 93rd, Rwanda 65th, Panama 64th...).
        1- after the WWI, british invaders prosecuted and judged the ittihadits and transferred them to malta in 1919. but they haven'f found any evidence that confirm the so called genocide and released them.

        2- i really dont see any reason to make me feel i have to defend my my ideas. i don't wanna change anyone's mind everyone can beleive what they want.

        3- i am against the all kind of ethnical nationalism and racism.

        4- i checked the human development index report and i saw that Turkiye is better than Iran and Armenia at the all sections.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Alexandros View Post
          Actually it is.You can be sentenced to prison for talking Kurdish even if you are dead!

          Read the article below:

          where are you from?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
            85-years old Kurdish mother cannot see her son in prison just because she cannot speak Turkish:

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            http://www.inanchaber.com/pages.asp?Pagem=Mahk%C3%BBma%20K%C3%BCrt%C3%A7e%20konu%C5%9Fma%20yasa%C4%9F%C4%B1&cat_id=4&cat2_id=4&wid=124


            Army coup leader Kenan Evren confesses: "Prohibition of Kurdish language was wrong"

            http://www.karalahana.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1214:kenan%20evren%20kurtce%20yasagi%20hataydi%20dedi&catid=30:T%C3%BCrkiye&Itemid=71


            Deputy candidate Orhan Morglu was sentenced because of speaking Kurdish in a meeting (September 2008):

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            http://www.bianet.org/bianet/kategori/bianet/109690/siyasetci-orhan-mirogluna-bes-yil-kurtce-yasak


            Kurdish preaching is banned by Religious Affairs Administration:

            http://www.ilahiyatforum.com/forum/d...3E%3Cbr%3Epeki
            1- i do not know the source that you sent, i dont think it is so trustble if u look at the name of the site. but if it is true, i accept that it is unfair.

            2- do u think i support coup? or a coup leader who is supported by usa?
            everyone must speak their language freely.

            3-everyone must speak their language freely.

            4-everyone must speak their language freely.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tansel View Post
              1- after the WWI, british invaders prosecuted and judged the ittihadits and transferred them to malta in 1919. but they haven'f found any evidence that confirm the so called genocide and released them.
              The actual story isn't so simple as you told. Ottoman government showed unwillingness to judge war criminals. In the beginning, British government desired to punish the criminals but later agreed Kemalist movement to exchange captives. Although everything, Talat Cemal and Enver sentenced to death in absentia, and three governors are hanged by Ottoman courts.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by phantom
                Yes, it did.

                who?

                My country is the same as your country. And I will criticize "our" country whenever warranted.
                i said so because of i thought you r not a turkish citizen.
                of course everyone can criticize everything,

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ardakilic View Post
                  tansel has gone away i think

                  Realities and ghosts seem same to him probably. His false god Kemal could not save him from the ghosts of reality.
                  ardacim i don't wanna hurt your sensitive feelings but i wasnt here because i dont have time to discuss unimportant things.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by tansel View Post
                    i do not know the source that you sent, i dont think it is so trustble if u look at the name of the site. but if it is true, i accept that it is unfair.
                    If i dont know, it cannot exist. Even if it exists, it is unreliable. Even if it is reliable, maybe i can accept it.

                    That's not logcal, that's not fair, that's not moral.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by tansel View Post
                      ardacim i don't wanna hurt your sensitive feelings but i wasnt here because i dont have time to discuss unimportant things.
                      So you are here for Sunday walk.

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