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hello,
i've signed the petition,too, and i've been trying to encourage others to sign it. this new development in armenian issue made me very happy and excited. i check the web site every day to see how many people have signed. it's 22712 now
turkey has a very tense and emotional atmosphere nowadays. nationalists went crazy. but i'm afraid this tension gives turkish-armenians a hard time. yesterday a columnist in taraf wrote something that he heard from one of his friends:
a few days ago they (his friends family) were guests of a turkish citizen-armenian family. they learnt that since canan aritman said "gul's mother is armenian" the grandma of the family was silently crying whenever she reads the racist comments about this issue on the newspapers. in the end the family stops to buy newspapers and turns of the tv to avoid her to watch the news.
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Originally posted by icten View Posthello,
i've signed the petition,too, and i've been trying to encourage others to sign it. this new development in armenian issue made me very happy and excited. i check the web site every day to see how many people have signed. it's 22712 now
turkey has a very tense and emotional atmosphere nowadays. nationalists went crazy. but i'm afraid this tension gives turkish-armenians a hard time. yesterday a columnist in taraf wrote something that he heard from one of his friends:
a few days ago they (his friends family) were guests of a turkish citizen-armenian family. they learnt that since canan aritman said "gul's mother is armenian" the grandma of the family was silently crying whenever she reads the racist comments about this issue on the newspapers. in the end the family stops to buy newspapers and turns of the tv to avoid her to watch the news.
welcome içten,
if were a civilised society ,there would be extreme reaction to canan aritman.
she is the most racist rabid dog that can be on earth.
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Originally posted by lal View Postwelcome içten,
if were a civilised society ,there would be extreme reaction to canan aritman.
she is the most racist rabid dog that can be on earth.
She the Turkish equivalent to Sarah Palin...which is not a compliment, btw.
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The op ed piece below is a salient example that many Turks just 'don't get it'.
What this guy fails to understand is that The USA has nothing to do with this apology petition.
This petition was created by Turkish citizens and is aimed at grass-roots Turkish following. Why lash out at the US? Is it tactic to change the subject or obfuscate the issue? Is it fear?
What ever it is, it smacks of desperation and it's not going to work this time.
FORGET ARMENIA, TURKS SHOULD CONDEMN AMERICAN INDIAN GENOCIDE
by James (Cem) Ryan Page 1 of 3 page(s)
Opednews.com Progressive, Liberal United States and International News, Opinion, Op-Eds and Politics
Turkey is beset on all sides by the shock doctrine strategy of the west, and from within by its US-backed marionette government. Now the Armenian Genocide issue has once again bubbled to the surface. Apologize! Apologize! yell the so-called Turkish liberals, egos stroked and, no doubt, palms greased by their western puppeteers. It’s the same old drama with the same stodgy cast burbling the same trite lines. As usual, the government does nothing, thus contributing to the confusion, apathy, and fear that stalk the land. But that’s the whole idea isn’t it?
Turkish people, instead of handwringing and moaning, ACT! Turkish people, you heirs of the Atatürk Revolution, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk gave you the right (and responsibility) to save your country. (http://yunus.hacettepe.edu.tr/~sadi/...r/hitabe2.html ) Fight the rush-to-judgment efforts of the Armenian Genocide lobby. Every “Turkish child of future generations” should demand that their parliament immediately enact a resolution that condemns the American Indian Genocide. Turkish people…ACT! Defend your country against the dark powers that Mustafa Kemal Atatürk foresaw over eighty years ago. The facts of the catastrophe done to the American Indians are in plain sight and beyond dispute. Spain, Portugal, England, and, most importantly, the United States of America should stand condemned in the eyes of the world for the crimes committed against the aboriginal population in the Americas.
Upwards of 200 million Indians lost their lives on the combined North, Central, and South American continents after Columbus landed in 1492. The Indians in South and Central America were mostly enslaved to extract precious metals. The Indians in North America were displaced, starved, and slaughtered to make way for the enormous flow of European immigrants. Vast numbers died from European diseases, perhaps the first weapon of mass destruction, in this case, biological warfare. Surely Turkey has the right to defend itself from the Western claims of genocide, given the historically bloody hand of the West.
From approximately 15-18 million North American Indians present in the days of Columbus, only 190,000 were left in the territorial United States in 1890. The destruction of the Southern Indians (the Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Creek tribes) resulted in the seizure and clearance of their enormously fertile forest lands (the Southern black belt) in order to expand both slavery and cotton production in Arkansas, Alabama, and Mississippi. In this manner, the red and black races were displaced, enslaved, and murdered in order for white America to prosper. The proof of this assertion is fully documented and unassailable.
On the other hand, Turkey has welcomed warmly the persecuted minorities of many nations. The same year that the destruction of the American Indians began, 1492, Turkey’s Sultan Bayezit II accepted the Jews expelled from Spain and Portugal. Similar compassion was render to Jews centuries who fled Hitler’s genocide. Surely Turkey has the right, the responsibility, and moral authority to counter the orchestrated, poorly documented, rush-to-judgment of the Armenian Lobby and its collaborators, both western and Turkish.
The horrific destruction of the sophisticated Native American cultural system was encouraged by the government of the United States, particularly under the administration of that so-called champion of so-called democracy, Andrew Jackson. By 1890, the American Indians were finished. Their numbers had been reduced by 98 percent over the 400 years since Columbus landed. By 1890 the United States government had seized 98 percent of their land. No greater genocide or land grab has existed in the history of the world. Surely Turkey has the right to challenge the unproven claim of so-called genocide by affirming through parliamentary resolution the well-documented genocide of an entire race of people by an act of policy by the government of the United States of America.
It is high time that Turkey takes the offensive on the matter of genocide. In this day of widespread destruction, it is high time to remind America, Americans, and their government, that they are up to their ancestral elbows in the blood of the American Indians. The Turkish government must condemn the American Indian Genocide, or itself be condemned. And if you, the Turkish people, think that makes you a traitor, then read again Nazım Hikmet’s magnificent poem, Vatan Haini (“Traitor”) below, along with Atatürk’s statement of your “primary duty.”
Cem Ryan, Ph.D.
Istanbul, 21 December 2008
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