Vive La France !!!!!

[Artashes]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

People like you attack legitimate scholars of world renown. You are not interested in truth. You just go along with the truth for as far as it agrees with your agenda - but when the two diverge, your agenda is more important and truth is then easily discarded.

You idiot. You don't get to put words in my mouth jerk.
For all who read this--------
------------- I live by the truth ----1----------
When bell the mouth spews out the above garbage, know that the idiot made that up to suit his agenda.
Just like the turk makes up lies to suit their agenda.
Read Haykakan's last post in "Armenia and the information war, to see the turk lying to suit their interest.
Then read bells above made up nonsense to see this turk a$s licker contriving.
You are worthless bell . You are a conniving mouth.
Just like a turk.
Read bells posts and see how many times he has not answered ligitimate questions and request for sources.
Bell fabricates to suit his agenda like the above quoted post.
I agree with Haykakan , your nothing .

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

the genocide .... was planned and implemented with European powers. Germany providing plans and logistics is a good example.

No Bell here is where i return you a favor of not providing details and citations exactly like you did to me when i asked you to do the same. I am not an arrogant prick but i do feel inclined to act like one when i am dealing with one.

Either you are a liar: you post lies, and when found out you try to save face by diverting attention from the issue of your lying.

Or you are just ignorant about the subject: you post something you believe to be true without having bothered to check whether it is true or not, and then when it is found out to be false you try to save face by diverting attention from the issue of your ignorance of the subject.

Regardless of which option it is, it indicates that the advice I gave some time ago about not trusting anything an Armenian says about the AG was wise advice.

There is no evidence that the AG was "planned and implemented with European powers" or that "Germany providing plans and logistics" so there are no sources that you could have given to back up those claims.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

Just like a turk.

Flawless victory for me!

[Artashes]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

Yet another post without any substance by bell.

[hrai]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

You idiot. You don't get to put words in my mouth jerk.
For all who read this--------
------------- I live by the truth ----1----------
When bell the mouth spews out the above garbage, know that the idiot made that up to suit his agenda.
Just like the turk makes up lies to suit their agenda.
Read Haykakan's last post in "Armenia and the information war, to see the turk lying to suit their interest.
Then read bells above made up nonsense to see this turk a$s licker contriving.
You are worthless bell . You are a conniving mouth.
Just like a turk.
Read bells posts and see how many times he has not answered ligitimate questions and request for sources.
Bell fabricates to suit his agenda like the above quoted post.
I agree with Haykakan , your nothing .

Just so I can see this again.

[Haykakan]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

I guess you did not know bell so i will inform you that there are times when silence can be deafening. This alone implicates the Germans but that is not all there was. There were German officers who not only helped the genocide effort by aiding the turk but even attacked Armenians trying to stave off deportation who were successfully resisting the turkish army. Germany was aiding the turck in every way financially, logistically..it provided trains and other transportation to the turckish army which greatly aided it in accomplishing the genocide not to mention other types of assistance. There is no mention of germany aiding the turck in the genocide of the armenians simply because the word genocide was not coined yet. The fact that germany used a much improved version of genocide later speaks volumes about where the german moral compass was in ww1 as well. I think some historians get so caught up with looking for specific things that they miss the meaning of the whole picture. The fact is that Turcky could not have completely eliminated its Armenian population without the help of the Germans and this makes them complicit. I am not a historian but i do love studying it when i can. There are obvious reasons why some people would want to keep German involvement in yet another genocide quiet but there is no denying that Germany was complicit not only by its silence on the matter and its inaction but also by its support for its murderous ally during and long after German leaders were fully aware of what it was the turck was doing to the Armenians. If you give me a gun knowing fully well that i am going to use it to kill someone then are you not complicit in this murder? I am no lawyer either but im pretty sure you get to go to jail for complicity to murder. I think the decades of turkish propaganda vs the armenian genocide has worked in some ways with it chizzeling away at the truth one tiney bit at a time. I can show you citations on everything i wrote but i wont because you do not do it for me. I am a firm believer in doing on to others as you would like to be treated yourself but Bell has shown time and again that he has no interest in the truth but rather pretends to so he can justify his sarcasm and turn his nose up on Armenians. I knew for a long time that bell was a snob but i thought he brought some value to the forum then but my opinion has changed for he dwells on his snobishness far more then the truth.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

I guess you did not know bell so i will inform you that there are times when silence can be deafening. This alone implicates the Germans but that is not all there was. There were German officers who not only helped the genocide effort by aiding the turk but even attacked Armenians trying to stave off deportation who were successfully resisting the turkish army. Germany was aiding the turck in every way financially, logistically..it provided trains and other transportation to the turckish army which greatly aided it in accomplishing the genocide not to mention other types of assistance. There is no mention of germany aiding the turck in the genocide of the armenians simply because the word genocide was not coined yet. The fact that germany used a much improved version of genocide later speaks volumes about where the german moral compass was in ww1 as well. I think some historians get so caught up with looking for specific things that they miss the meaning of the whole picture. The fact is that Turcky could not have completely eliminated its Armenian population without the help of the Germans and this makes them complicit. I am not a historian but i do love studying it when i can. There are obvious reasons why some people would want to keep German involvement in yet another genocide quiet but there is no denying that Germany was complicit not only by its silence on the matter and its inaction but also by its support for its murderous ally during and long after German leaders were fully aware of what it was the turck was doing to the Armenians. If you give me a gun knowing fully well that i am going to use it to kill someone then are you not complicit in this murder? I am no lawyer either but im pretty sure you get to go to jail for complicity to murder. I think the decades of turkish propaganda vs the armenian genocide has worked in some ways with it chizzeling away at the truth one tiney bit at a time. I can show you citations on everything i wrote but i wont because you do not do it for me. I am a firm believer in doing on to others as you would like to be treated yourself but Bell has shown time and again that he has no interest in the truth but rather pretends to so he can justify his sarcasm and turn his nose up on Armenians. I knew for a long time that bell was a snob but i thought he brought some value to the forum then but my opinion has changed for he dwells on his snobishness far more then the truth.

These words by you, and by those like you, reveal the complete contempt that a great many Armenians show for the most important event in Armenia's recent history. You casually toss out nonsense allegations like the AG was "planned and implemented with European powers" and that "Germany providing plans and logistics" for the AG. You cannot come up with one jot of evidence to prove those extremely specific claims, cannot produce even a single citation by any historian. But what does that matter to you - you are not interested in truth, for you its a case of I know what I know and so I don't need evidence and I don't need to do any time consuming research.

The advice that I give to all non-Armenians is don't trust a word any Armenian says about the Armenian Genocide. And some advice to Armenians: if you want to know the main reason why the word "alleged" still accompanies the words Armenian Genocide, and will continue to accompany it long after 2015, maybe just look at yourself in the mirror.

[Haykakan]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

Nah Bell i did not say there is no evidence nor did i say i cannot provide it. You have a habit of putting words into other peoples mouths but this trick is getting old.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

Nah Bell i did not say there is no evidence nor did i say i cannot provide it. You have a habit of putting words into other peoples mouths but this trick is getting old.

There is no evidence thst the AG was "planned and implemented with European powers" and that "Germany providing plans and logistics" for the AG, so you cannot provide it.

To have made such allegations at all shows how amateurish, how completely lacking in seriousness, your attitude to the history of the AG is. And to have not later apologised for making the allegations, and withdraw them as being false, but instead resort to personal insults, just shows the sort of person you are.

And does the fact that all you Armenians here seemed happy to let Haykakan's false allegations rest unchallenged show that you care very little about truth when it concerns the Armenian genocide? And if you don't care, why should the rest of the world care?

[Artashes]

Re: Vive La France !!!!!

These words by you, and by those like you, reveal the complete contempt that a great many Armenians show for the most important event in Armenia's recent history. You casually toss out nonsense allegations like the AG was "planned and implemented with European powers" and that "Germany providing plans and logistics" for the AG. You cannot come up with one jot of evidence to prove those extremely specific claims, cannot produce even a single citation by any historian. But what does that matter to you - you are not interested in truth, for you its a case of I know what I know and so I don't need evidence and I don't need to do any time consuming research.

The advice that I give to all non-Armenians is don't trust a word any Armenian says about the Armenian Genocide. And some advice to Armenians: if you want to know the main reason why the word "alleged" still accompanies the words Armenian Genocide, and will continue to accompany it long after 2015, maybe just look at yourself in the mirror.

--------- the advice I give to all non Armenians is ... Don't trust a word (ANY) Armenian says about the Armenian genocide --------
The above is a quote by bell.
The above is a turk mantra.
Both the turks & bell repeat that juvenal & merit less phrase over and over again.
Bell is not only a turk a$s licker but simply a twit.
The research on the Armenian genocide done by the Armenian intelligencia is both profound, prolific, honorable, truthful, and deadly accurate.
To make such a blanket & worthless statement such as bell made in the above post is --- MORONIC ---
bell, you are a fkn moron.


To what audience does any rational mind think bell is playing to???
If that's a tough question for any of the readers out there, then you need to get your crayons out and practice your colors some more.
Artashes