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Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

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  • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Instead of preaching to us morning, noon and night why don't you?
    Don't fricking tell me you have to live in Eastern Armenia to know right from wrong you hypocrite.
    lol well said

    Who wants the Russians out of Armenia anyway? What Russia has to do is reject its newly found pro-Turkish stance of recent years because in the long term, Russia will not gain from a strong Turkey despite the fact that it is involved in the construction of certain pipelines. We want to see the Russia of old.

    Anyway, despite all the pressure on Sargsyan and Nalbandian, they could have chosen not to sign. Don't tell me that they had no choice, it is Nalbandian's own hand after all. That's why they are considered traitors.

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    • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

      Davo, by having the pipes amd other routes go through Armenia, Russia can control turckey and Azerbadjian it is not hard to see this. All sides have much to gain here in the long term, that is why this is being done. One can easily make the argument that had they not signed then they would be trators because that would be forcing the powers to take action against Armenia. Gavur nowhere in my posts do i claim what you say, your just making xxxx up, as for preaching it sounds to me like your doing a lot more of it then me. Iond who said i dont use algebra? The teaching job is a part time gig for me, you know nothing about me except the fact that i destroy the arguments that the armenian government is treasonous and that it is destroying Armenia by signing these protocals. Some of you are so full of hate you refuse to see any other posibility besides the one in your fantacies. It is important to have a open but rational mind especialy in regards to national affairs, making decisions based on emotions is unaffordable for even the strongest of nations let alone our Armenia. I think like this or like that because my aunt , mom, party official tells me to is hardly a excuse for reaching the wrong conclusions, you have a head on your shoulders for a reason, might as well use it instead of copying and pasting xxxx all day.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

        Yes, but in reality, Turkey is not interested in aligning itself with Russia as much as it is interested in aligning with the EU and the US. The expanding influence of Russia in the area is contrary to the latter 2s interests and would surely be to a lesser degree.

        Nobody would have said that Sargsyan is a traitor because he is forcing the powers to act against Armenia by not signing, he would have been hailed positively. If Sargsyan had not signed, he would have justified it by saying that the cause is the popular opposition to the protocols in Armenia and the diaspora and the powers wouldn't have been able to do anything.

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        • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

          Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
          Yes, but in reality, Turkey is not interested in aligning itself with Russia as much as it is interested in aligning with the EU and the US. The expanding influence of Russia in the area is contrary to the latter 2s interests and would surely be to a lesser degree.

          Nobody would have said that Sargsyan is a traitor because he is forcing the powers to act against Armenia by not signing, he would have been hailed positively. If Sargsyan had not signed, he would have justified it by saying that the cause is the popular opposition to the protocols in Armenia and the diaspora and the powers wouldn't have been able to do anything.
          What on earth brings you to the conclusion that the strongest world powers would not be able to do anything if Serj defies them? Do you really think this or are you just typing stuff cause you got nothin better to do? Turckey will side itself with whoever it thinks will benefit it the most at the time. It does compete with russia over the caucuses but it also has its share of problems with the eu, usa and isreal.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

            Armenia is already in a fairly disadvantageous position when we talk about regional projects because of its isolation. Despite this, Armenia in general fares better than the Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ukraine (human development index). What more would the powers do, then?

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            • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

              Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
              Armenia is already in a fairly disadvantageous position when we talk about regional projects because of its isolation. Despite this, Armenia in general fares better than the Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ukraine (human development index). What more would the powers do, then?
              Your suggesting Armenia can strongarm the whole world. I mean honestly do you really believe what your saying?
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                Why don't you answer my question?

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                • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                  Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
                  Armenia is already in a fairly disadvantageous position when we talk about regional projects because of its isolation. Despite this, Armenia in general fares better than the Georgia, Azerbaijan and Ukraine (human development index). What more would the powers do, then?
                  It doesn't take much to punish Armenia and cause her precious hdi to plummet. Instead of challenging the world, might as well do what we can to profit from their plans.

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                  • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                    Originally posted by Davo88 View Post
                    Why don't you answer my question?
                    Man are you nutts? Like how old are you? You cant see how Armenia can be hurt by the world? I mean honestly? I am not waisting anymore energy on you sheesh.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                      hehe

                      You tend to exaggerate you think that it's always world vs. Armenia. boo hoo

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