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  • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    What on earth brings you to the conclusion that the strongest world powers would not be able to do anything if Serj defies them? Do you really think this or are you just typing stuff cause you got nothin better to do? Turckey will side itself with whoever it thinks will benefit it the most at the time. It does compete with russia over the caucuses but it also has its share of problems with the eu, usa and isreal.
    This is called Win-Win strategy. In diplomatics, instead of causing small 'Cold Wars' with other states; solving the problems in a way that boths sides could gain is a better solution. And thats currently the main ideology behind the Turkish Foreign Affairs. Their new Minister of Foreign Affairs is a Prof. known as the Turkish doyen of this Win-Win strategy. He is not even a parliament, he has no political background, but they made him the Minister. That clearly shows us that Ankara is strictly following that ideology.

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    • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

      Originally posted by Army View Post
      This is called Win-Win strategy. In diplomatics, instead of causing small 'Cold Wars' with other states; solving the problems in a way that boths sides could gain is a better solution. And thats currently the main ideology behind the Turkish Foreign Affairs. Their new Minister of Foreign Affairs is a Prof. known as the Turkish doyen of this Win-Win strategy. He is not even a parliament, he has no political background, but they made him the Minister. That clearly shows us that Ankara is strictly following that ideology.
      He didn't use to be an MP in the previous term, but currently he is.

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      • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

        Originally posted by seruven View Post
        He didn't use to be an MP in the previous term, but currently he is.
        You mean Davutoglu? No he is not.

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        • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

          Originally posted by Army View Post
          This is called Win-Win strategy. In diplomatics, instead of causing small 'Cold Wars' with other states; solving the problems in a way that boths sides could gain is a better solution. And thats currently the main ideology behind the Turkish Foreign Affairs. Their new Minister of Foreign Affairs is a Prof. known as the Turkish doyen of this Win-Win strategy. He is not even a parliament, he has no political background, but they made him the Minister. That clearly shows us that Ankara is strictly following that ideology.
          You give turckey too much credit, this deal is not their idea.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            You give turckey too much credit, this deal is not their idea.
            Could be. I am not an expert.

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            • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

              Originally posted by Army View Post
              You mean Davutoglu? No he is not.
              Oops, I've checked it on the net, you're right. I read that he became a member of executive board (MKYK) of AKP and it led me mass things up.

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              • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                Gavur nowhere in my posts do i claim what you say, your just making xxxx up, as for preaching it sounds to me like your doing a lot more of it then me.
                I'm not the one harping over and over on the fact that we don't live in Eastern Armenia (just like the Turks,BTW) it came to a point one got the impression we had to apologize or something for not living there and we couldn't speak about our true concerns without that qualifier.I think you overdid it.But I like it guys like you or Turks take an indefensible stand and are aggressive, it brings out the best in me.
                The fact still stands that we could of done better then this toilet paper of an agreement and they forced us into it KNOWING it was a dangerous affair. This international urgency to insincerely kiss and make up cannot be justified as a reason to jeopardise the Armenian State and its people.Since there's no guarantee for today's geopolitical conditions are lasting.Tell me now, if I'm emotional or making xxxx up, if anything, your favorite so-called protokol is comprised of made up shiat.
                "All truth passes through three stages:
                First, it is ridiculed;
                Second, it is violently opposed; and
                Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                  Originally posted by Army View Post
                  This is called Win-Win strategy. In diplomatics, instead of causing small 'Cold Wars' with other states; solving the problems in a way that boths sides could gain is a better solution. And thats currently the main ideology behind the Turkish Foreign Affairs. Their new Minister of Foreign Affairs is a Prof. known as the Turkish doyen of this Win-Win strategy. He is not even a parliament, he has no political background, but they made him the Minister. That clearly shows us that Ankara is strictly following that ideology.
                  How could it be Win-Win when one side is still in denial about their history maybe thats in the coming attractions, but right now its more like Win and Wong ))
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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                  • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                    Originally posted by Gavur View Post
                    How could it be Win-Win when one side is still in denial about their history maybe thats in the coming attractions, but right now its more like Win and Wong ))
                    facts and "maybe" are different vegetables

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                    • Re: Turkish-Armenian signing delayed; Clinton departs

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      You give turckey too much credit, this deal is not their idea.
                      The elements of the new Turkish historical society has been to seminars allover Europe to learn the latest techniques of the Win-Win so they can learn to negotiate on things they can change while sidestepping difficult issues (like AG) without actually denying.They are a academic bunch these time, I read their garbage theses on Armenian Genocide subject, they are still deniers of the state of course, but more knowledged then that untalented whats his face was.
                      "All truth passes through three stages:
                      First, it is ridiculed;
                      Second, it is violently opposed; and
                      Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                      Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

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