America's Financial Crisis

[Muhaha]

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I am to guess you support the Obama administration and you believe that he will rejuvenate the economy.

No...what did I say that made you think that? I'd like to Consider myself pretty Capitalist/Free-Market. Obama is definitely not.

Here is what I think the Government should spend money on:
-Defense of the people. This includes the Military,Police,Firefighters, etc.
-Projects that are too secretive to let Corporations and other private entities to handle. Something like NASA should stay government operated.
-Health for those who are under 18,over 65, or have nothing to do with the illness. For example, we shouldn't let people out on the street just because they were born with something like M.S.

There could be other things but this is basically it.


To get back to the idea of rejuvenating the economy. I seriously don't believe anything can be done about it at this stage, trying to save it will only make it worse. Riding it out seems to be the best option. Though I'm not an economist, nor do I spend a lot of time reading up on the economy.

[Anonymouse]

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Yes, I apply it to everything.



Nazi Germany inflicted more than 30+ Million deaths. You're going to have to tell me what the United States has done to top that.



I haven't even heard about this "Global Fight Against Corruption". If there is one, I agree it needs to be fought over here a little bit.




Who,Where,How.



What do you call Human Rights Watch constantly updating on GITMO. What do you call the ACLU constantly fighting against the PATRIOT ACT. Apart from these organizations, Freedom of the Press is there for a reason. Are you going to tell me Alex Jones,Michael Moore, and Keith Olbermann are somehow defending the government and not covering irregularities?




I agree, and most people know this which is why Cable isn't the only place people get their news. There are countless medians,countless investigators, and countless sources to get your news. That's the beauty of the First Amendment.



You're right about this,Keith Olbermann is the only one in that's in the mainstream I've seen come close to investigating government corruption, and that's all going to change because he makes no attempt to hide the fact he's in the tank for Obama.

But again, I'd like to say, I doubt there are a whole lot of people whose only source of information is "Mainstream News". Cable news and major publications are not the only news and is not representative of what people are aware of. If anything, Mainstream News is just the background off of which we compare and contrast other stories.





If you have gathered up enough evidence and are absolutely convinced the official account is a fabrication, then please contact the proper authorities. Democracy means "Government by the people, for the people", which means the people have to do some work and correct the mistakes of the Government and authorities in charge. It seems as though you have.



I agree, it needs to be looked into. Although I stop short at saying the government actively pushed for something like that to happen, there are a lot of reasons to believe the Bush Administration let it happen. That's just as bad and I'm the last person on Earth to defend the guys currently occupying office.



Exactly, you're not the first person to notice there's something fishy. I agree completely that not enough is being done about these criminals.



I had heard about billions missing, not trillions. It doesn't matter, that money is all taxes and needs to be accounted for. This is another thing not too many are covering and I'm not going to defend it.






I'd also like to thank you for your criticism, one of the only ways to make progress is to listen to and reflect on critique,criticism, and judgment.




How was I condescending? I've used nothing but plain English in all my posts, whether it's with you or others. I've never used slang, I've never used four letter words.

I am to guess you support the Obama administration and you believe that he will rejuvenate the economy.

[Armenian]

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Well, the same could be said about the international consensus on the holocaust and the way it benefits Israel and modern xxxry. The same could be said about how blaming everything on Nazi Germany scares Europeans from nationalism and implicitly forces them to go along with the extremely loose immigration laws and multiculturalism that has all but destroyed the sense that they are natives on their own soil.

This is a very powerful and insightful statement, jgk3. Bravo.

Rudolph Hess's story illustrates well what I have been saying about Germany wanting to make peace with the western powers:

Rudolf Hess - Casualty of Conscience (disregard the brain dead skinhead themes) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80EVd...eature=related

Calm down man, what's your problem? When have I defended the current foreign policy positions of the United States?

I said sorry, Muhaha. It won't happen again. Thanks to jgk3 advice, I am going to practice being nice to people who disagree with me from now on. I will try practicing on you because everything you seem to write has the potential of pissing me off.

[Muhaha]

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But what's amazing here is the total free ride the Western ruling elite get for their crimes that historically speaking far outweigh what the Nazis did. And we know the reason why. It's because idiots like Muhaha here are told by the western establishment that its being done in the name of "democracy"...

Oops! Sorry, Muhaha.

Calm down man, what's your problem? When have I defended the current foreign policy positions of the United States?

Have I posted defending ANYTHING that's going on right now?

All I have done is complained about Russian influence in Armenia and their Authoritarian ways and have stated that if Armenia HAS to be under such major influence, I'd rather have it be the West because I sincerely believe the Armenian people would be freer that way than they would under Russian influence/control/rule.

How does that make me an idiot? You do the exact same thing you claim to be mad at the West for. The U.S goes around the world telling everybody our way is the best way, you call this evil and expansionist. However, Anybody that contradicts what you have to say must be an idiot and is simply not thinking enough.

[jgk3]

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I can hardly blame him because everyone I grew up with believed in the same crap, including me. We're all ingrained with this sense that fighting and war are taboos, whilst our leaders actively engage in genocide overseas. At the same time, we're taught by our media and our war veterans in commemorative events that it's honorable and patriotic to serve the army. We're taught that our armies of democracy are allowed to go punish regimes in 3rd world countries, but when they so much as lift a pistol in the air to fight back, they are terrorists or insane trigger happy warmongers.

Oh, and we have the freedom of speech, so long as what we say is of no significant consequence to the aforementioned political status quo.

It's just inconsistencies the whole way through. It's painful, but it's relieving when you can finally say "I grew out of it".

[Armenian]

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How convenient of you to blame the loss of 30 million lives on the political losers of WWII.

The point is Nazis were not parading around the world acting like some moral police force. Nazis made their intentions very clear - the eradication of the problematic Jewish infestation from within Europe and the total defeat of Bolshevism. Nazis did their best to avoid going to war against France, Britain and America but the aforementioned three chose to temporarily side with the Bolsheviks to rid Europe of National Socialism which they thought was more of an immediate threat for them than the bankrupt and primitive Bolsheviks at the time.

Nonetheless, based on some accounts, the Nazis were in a sense forced into the war. Had they not attacked the Soviet Union, many historians now believe that the Soviet Union was preparing to attack western Europe. In a sense, what the Nazi leadership did was carryout a preemptive strike. Anyway, it was a colossal war, a ruthless war to the death, and many millions of people perished as a result. But what's amazing here is the total free ride the Western ruling elite get for their crimes that historically speaking far outweigh what the Nazis did. And we know the reason why. It's because idiots like Muhaha here are told by the western establishment that its being done in the name of "democracy"...

Oops! Sorry, Muhaha.

[Muhaha]

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We simply can't know the actual figures. It is never the public that's allowed to investigate this stuff independently, and whenever they've tried, they had to play along with the politically motivated figures if it is to survive in academic literature.

I agree.

[jgk3]

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The total losses of WW2 were more than 50 Million, I blame the other 20 on the political winners. But how can you not blame Nazi Germany for the loss of 20 million Soviet Union citizens...? How can you not blame Nazi Germany for the loss of give or take 5-6 million xxxs?

We simply can't know the actual figures. It is never the public that's allowed to investigate this stuff independently, and whenever they've tried, they had to play along with the politically motivated figures if it is to survive in academic literature.

The same goes to the figure of 1.5 million Armenians killed in the genocide, those who wish to politically side with Turkey don't want to admit such a figure, whilst those who want to side with Armenia on the issue, often for their own political aims (perhaps to help bolster talk of genocides done to certain groups, or to estrange Turkey from their nation), will opt to agree with Armenians on the 1.5 million dead.

Armenians stand on a conviction that the 1.5 million figure is true, xxxs stand on a conviction that their 6 million dead in the holocaust is true, the question is, what are the political consequences of other nations adopting these figures? This is the only interest when it comes to international politics, it is never about the humanitarian dimension.

In short, I may, as an Armenian, believe that 1.5 million Armenians were killed in the genocide. But what are the consequences of forcing the whole of Europe to publicly agree with my belief, or face imprisonment? Many Armenians would deem this situation desirable because it punishes Turkey, therefore, our humanitarian care, our sorrows, etc... suddenly takes on a very real, depersonalized political dimension. We feel happy with this situation, as it benefits us.

Well, the same could be said about the international consensus on the holocaust and the way it benefits Israel and modern xxxry. The same could be said about how blaming everything on Nazi Germany scares Europeans from nationalism and implicitly forces them to go along with the extremely loose immigration laws and multiculturalism that has all but destroyed the sense that they are natives on their own soil.

There's hypocrisy here and it doesn't take brains to notice.

[Muhaha]

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How convenient of you to blame the loss of 30 million lives on the political losers of WWII.

The total losses of WW2 were more than 50 Million, I blame the other 20 on the political winners. But how can you not blame Nazi Germany for the loss of 20 million Soviet Union citizens...? How can you not blame Nazi Germany for the loss of give or take 5-6 million xxxs?

[jgk3]

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The deaths of these people are tragic and I won't defend the U.S regarding them. But the numbers don't come close to 30 Million.

How convenient of you to blame the loss of 30 million lives on the political losers of WWII.