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  • #51
    Re: Zimmerman Case

    Originally posted by Sip View Post
    Since when do the NRA propaganda sheeple care about facts? Hmmm, it's kinda fun calling the others sheeple. Makes things so much easier to "argue"
    If you can't beat 'em...?


    Originally posted by Sip View Post
    Now having said that, Eddo, I hope you realize what the "Sig" in Siggie's name means
    Of course he realizes! Otherwise one might accuse him talking out of orifices typically reserved for the expulsion of waste and building StrawSiggies.

    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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    • #52
      Re: Zimmerman Case

      lol
      I guess Sig knows the law better than the top defense lawyers who are the guardians of our well established laws......I laugh at the sheeple who will come begging us to save them once SHTF.

      Bells I take care of you later you opportunist little Wiesel.
      B0zkurt Hunter

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      • #53
        Re: Zimmerman Case

        Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
        lol
        I guess Sig knows the law better than the top defense lawyers who are the guardians of our well established laws......I laugh at the sheeple who will come begging us to save them once SHTF.

        Bells I take care of you later you opportunist little Wiesel.
        When were top defense lawyers the guardians of our well-established laws?! Does the law even need a guardian? The laws are written by legislators, passed by the people (or representatives of the people), and enforced by the justice system (law enforcement and judiciary). There's one set of laws that are "guarded" in any way and that's the constitution. Last I checked it people have rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in there as well as the right to bear arms, but not the right to shoot people indiscriminately. And the last ruling by the Supreme Court said no retreat on one's own premises is constitutional. A law like Florida's has not come before the court yet, but I hope that it will. I've read opinions where they've struck down plenty of laws for being overly broad and still plenty others in the interest of public safety.

        You're taking your law education from Zimmermans' attorneys instead of looking into it yourself and reading the actual statutes yourself (as well as when they were enacted) and you're suggesting I'm part of the sheeple?

        And lastly, I believe calling people weasels is an insult, no? Or did you mean it as more of a term of endearment?
        [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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        • #54
          Re: Zimmerman Case

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          And lastly, I believe calling people weasels is an insult, no? Or did you mean it as more of a term of endearment?
          And he couldn't even spell his supposed insult right.

          Or maybe his is a weirdo new way of calling someone a j3w, or accusing them of being a German light air-transportable armoured fighting vehicle. He did capitalise "Wiesel", after all.
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #55
            Re: Zimmerman Case

            Originally posted by Siggie View Post
            You're taking your law education from Zimmermans' attorneys instead of looking into it yourself and reading the actual statutes yourself (as well as when they were enacted) and you're suggesting I'm part of the sheeple?
            I said "follow the sheeple" which suggests that you are not one but you choose to go down that road......and this road in reality has nothing to do with problems on current laws but everything to do with race. Your too smart to be a sheeple, this is why the only intent I see its Social Engineering, very dangerous.

            And lastly, I believe calling people weasels is an insult, no? Or did you mean it as more of a term of endearment?
            Its a complement, people like Jingle Bells do good in life.....the animal itself stands as a symbol for intelligence, cunning, and a opportunist am I right?

            Bells I said later you *****
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • #56
              Re: Zimmerman Case

              Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
              Bells I said later you *****
              I'm still waiting for a list of those "God-given rights" you referred to.
              Plenipotentiary meow!

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              • #57
                Re: Zimmerman Case

                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                Police officers and military have training and that training is invaluable in being able to quickly assess a situation and even they are vulnerable to making grave mistakes such as in the case of Amadou Diallo where police opened fire on an unarmed man on his own front porch because they thought the wallet he pulled from his jacket was a gun. We cannot have civilians running around as vigilantes opening fire on shoplifters and youth playing rap music.
                Scientific American published a piece discussing some research relevant to the above...

                The researchers ultimately found a clear case of what they termed shooter bias. Over a series of four studies, participants were faster to (correctly) shoot an armed target when he was Black, and faster to (correctly) decide not to shoot an unarmed target when he was White. But the truly interesting (and tragic) finding emerges when studying the cases where people accidentally chose to shoot targets who were holding wallets or cell phones. As it turns out, the participants were consistently more likely to accidentally shoot an unarmed target when he was Black.

                ...


                As an astute commenter notes, this is not a perfect example of the Police Officer’s Dilemma as Zimmerman did not shoot Martin because he thought that Martin was reaching for a gun. In fact, the infamous case of Amadou Diallo would probably be a more appropriate example of this particular scenario, as the shooting in this case actually did involve Diallo reaching for a wallet and the police officers mistakenly assuming that he was reaching for a gun. However, I do believe it is clear that snap judgments contributed to why Zimmerman chose to follow Martin & why there was ultimately a confrontation that ended in Martin’s death; without these snap judgments, Zimmerman likely would not have noticed Martin reaching for his waistband or thought that his presence was “suspicious” in the first place. Even if Zimmerman was ultimately acting in self-defense, the confrontation and altercation did unambiguously occur because of an initial suspicion on Zimmerman’s part — a suspicion likely due (at least in part) to the implicit cultural associations discussed in this post.


                Here are the citations for the research discussed in the article. Both are published in high impact top peer-reviewed journals.

                Correll, J., Park, B., Judd, C.M., & Wittenbrink, B. (2002). The police officer’s dilemma: Using ethnicity to disambiguate potentially threatening individuals. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 83 (6), 1314-29 PMID: 12500813

                Correll, J., Wittenbrink, B., Park, B., Judd, C., & Goyle, A. (2011). Dangerous enough: Moderating racial bias with contextual threat cues. Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, 47 (1), 184-189 DOI: 10.1016/j.jesp.2010.08.017
                [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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                • #58
                  Re: Zimmerman Case

                  Zimmerman back in the news for allegedly pulling a gun on his wife (soon to be ex-wife as she has filed for divorce) and her father during a disagreement... Could pulling a gun be his new solution to all problems?

                  [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                  -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                  • #59
                    Re: Zimmerman Case

                    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                    Zimmerman back in the news for allegedly pulling a gun on his wife (soon to be ex-wife as she has filed for divorce) and her father during a disagreement... Could pulling a gun be his new solution to all problems?

                    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,3625334.story
                    He just keeps proving that he is what i thought he was-a boy who wants to be a man but cannot.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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