Ukraine

[Eddo211]

Re: Ukraine

At the end of the day, whether everything that is happening in Ukraine is justifiable or not, Ukraine joining the Customs Union is in the overall interest of the Republic of Armenia because it strengthens it and that is what all Armenians should be striving for since we are officially joining the CU.

Yes, well said.....since we are on the CU train.

EU is not lost to Armenia unlike some say.....we always play both sides sooner or later somehow somewhere with timing.

[HermanGerman]

Re: Ukraine

[...] because Russia only wanted Armenia in to get Ukraine on board too...

Why should Armania's membership in the CU help to get Ukraine on board? How did you come to this conclusion? I don't see any real causal link.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Ukraine

At the end of the day, whether everything that is happening in Ukraine is justifiable or not, Ukraine joining the Customs Union is in the overall interest of the Republic of Armenia because it strengthens it and that is what all Armenians should be striving for since we are officially joining the CU.

So for all of Armenia's poodling to Russia, it has ended up in an even weaker position than before. Armenia has given the EU the finger and got a useless customs union with Russia in return, one which even Russia will no longer care about because Russia only wanted Armenia in to get Ukraine on board too. Armenia needs to discard the Customs Union asap, get back to negotiations with the EU beforre it is too late, and also keep an eye on what is happening in the Crimea - and if border changes happen, be ready to make potentual comparisons with NK.

[Mher]

Re: Ukraine

No Mher you are not reading the situation at all correctly which is kind of surprising from you since you have shown some balance before and it was you who posted the obvious USA incitement of the rebels who were armed and encouraged by USA and still are. This is not a be and let be situation-this is the encirclement of Russia by NATO. NATO is a tool of USA hegemony and it will be used along with others to destroy anyone standing in the way of new world order. The big fish to fry for these aholes are Russia and China in that order. The competition you see for post soviet space is about much more then the medium to small states being fought over-this is one of those cases where the whole picture only emerges when you put all the little ones together. Russia is fighting for her life and nothing less.

I definitely do agree with the latter, about the intention to surround Russia, but I still think a majority of the country wants this with or without any outside encouragement. We'll see how things develop. Right now though they're not looking good. Looks like neither side is deciding to let it be.

[Federate]

Re: Ukraine

At the end of the day, whether everything that is happening in Ukraine is justifiable or not, Ukraine joining the Customs Union is in the overall interest of the Republic of Armenia because it strengthens it and that is what all Armenians should be striving for since we are officially joining the CU.

[Haykakan]

Re: Ukraine

No Mher you are not reading the situation at all correctly which is kind of surprising from you since you have shown some balance before and it was you who posted the obvious USA incitement of the rebels who were armed and encouraged by USA and still are. This is not a be and let be situation-this is the encirclement of Russia by NATO. NATO is a tool of USA hegemony and it will be used along with others to destroy anyone standing in the way of new world order. The big fish to fry for these aholes are Russia and China in that order. The competition you see for post soviet space is about much more then the medium to small states being fought over-this is one of those cases where the whole picture only emerges when you put all the little ones together. Russia is fighting for her life and nothing less.

[Mher]

Re: Youkrain

Heh kinda funny how they picked an Armenian to head the revolutionary government. This is a clear attempt to reach out to Armenia and destabilize her to.

lmao cmon you're really reaching on that one. An Armenian from Azerbaijan who grew up in Ukraine, who probably barely ever set a foot in Armenia. A majority of ethnic Ukrainians wanted this, and I don't have a doubt about that. Is it ultimately better for them, we'll see, but I don't have a doubt this was the will of Ukrainians. And the talks of Ukrainian splitting is over blown. There are only 2 districts out of 24 that have a Russian Speaking majority. If Ukraine was smart, it would just let Crimea be. Its not a region that belongs to them anyway, and the have way more than they can handle. And if the Russia leadership had some intelligence it would let Ukraine be, and let them make their own choices. Independently, Ukraine is going to be in trouble and will want to strike a middle between the two sides. But if Russia keeps instigating Ukraine, it will only drive them further, and closer to the EU

[Haykakan]

Re: Youkrain

Heh kinda funny how they picked an Armenian to head the revolutionary government. This is a clear attempt to reach out to Armenia and destabilize her to. Prorussian forces have seized control of airports in Crimea. There is no going back now Ukraine will either be divided or a huge war is in the making. The guys in the other thread are rightfully worried about possible restart of war between Azeris and us during this period. I got a feeling we got another Georgia crisis on our hands.

[Haykakan]

Re: Youkrain

"You fail to give reasons why anyone in Britain, France or America would have thought that Armenia was worth the life of a single Briton, or Frenchman, or American."
I never said anything like this. Now your putting words into my mouth which is one of your older tricks..Armenia and Armenians would have been better off without any of these imperial pigs.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Youkrain

If Ukraine can finally get rid of its status of being a Russian client state, the Crimea will break off from Ukraine and join Russia. This will end the dogma that the Soviet-era borders are somehow unalterable. That will have implications on the status of NK.

Events seem to be happening quicker than I had expected.