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Originally posted by Anonymouse
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The fact is that you dont agree with me, therefore you automatically place me into stereotypes. Disagreement with you does not warrant a closed mind. Anyway, the WMD's were used by Saddam against his people in Kuwait...they exist. Or did you forget about this. I already said this in my last post to you. Did you find some article saying that they suddenly disappeared. -
This is a 1997 article from ARABICNEWS.com about rockets filled with mustard gas and nerve agent destroyed during Gulf War I:
OH OH and here is the best part !
When they say only recently, they mean sometime in 1997.Iraq informed UN weapons inspectors only recently that hundreds of rockets filled with mustard gas and nerve gas were stored at the site
But I guess before Gulf War II Sadam ordered the rest of the munitions destroyed out of the kindness of his heart.
This article is from Arabnews, so I don’t want to hear any nonsense about “the western media”.Comment
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My point exactly. Or do we have to wait and be bombed again to know that there are WMDs?Comment
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So you mean that we actually did have good reason to go to war? Gee I didnt know my life was saved because we bombed a terrorist. Wow, how could I have been defending Saddam this whole time. I guess there is more behind this than greed.Originally posted by patlajanBUT WAIT THERE'S MORE !
This is a more recent article( 1/28/2003) from ARABNEWS about weapons inspections in Iraq.
Here's a good quote from former chief weapons inspector Blix:
Mr. Blix said that Iraq "appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance - not even today - of the disarmament which was demanded of it and which it needs to carry out to win the confidence of the world and to live in peace."On chemical weapons, Mr. Blix said, UNMOVIC has information which conflicts with the Iraqi claim that it had produced the deadly VX nerve agent only on a pilot scale, in small amounts and in such poor quality that it was never weaponized and was subsequently destroyed.Comment
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You said you mentioned the WMDs in youre last post, in reference to the one before that, but nothing was there. Do you know what WMD's are? I mean it would be stupid of Saddam to use them on "his own people", don't you think, since it would most likely obliterate most of the place.Originally posted by surferarmo
The only thing he did was gas Kurds, and he doesn't consider him his people, and there is even speculation as to the degree of seriousness it involved.
It's funny how you just dedicate one or two lines of unsubstantiated text to say that Saddam used WMDs. Surely Colon Powell and Bush would have provided this as evidence to the UN, instead of forged documents of Saddams alleged WMDs don't you think?Achkerov kute.Comment
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Oh and in case anyone is wondering what "VX" is, read this:
And here are some facts from the Center for Disease Control:V-series agents for “venomous.” VX is an oily liquid that is clear, odorless and tasteless. It can be amber colored and similar in appearance to motor oil.
It is possible that any visible VX liquid contact on the skin, unless washed off immediately, would be lethalBecause it evaporates so slowly, VX can be a long-term threat as well as a short-term threat. Surfaces contaminated with VX should therefore be considered a long-term hazardPRETTY SCARY STUFF HUH? But I must be selfish because I don't want to let somebody kill me. Shame on me.Even a tiny drop of nerve agent on the skin can cause sweating and muscle twitching where the agent touched the skinComment
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Well all this hype and search and allegation and the best they can come up with is mustard gas? Where are all the nuclear weapons he was alleged to have?Originally posted by patlajanThis is a 1997 article from ARABICNEWS.com about rockets filled with mustard gas and nerve agent destroyed during Gulf War I:
OH OH and here is the best part !
When they say only recently, they mean sometime in 1997.Iraq informed UN weapons inspectors only recently that hundreds of rockets filled with mustard gas and nerve gas were stored at the site
But I guess before Gulf War II Sadam ordered the rest of the munitions destroyed out of the kindness of his heart.
This article is from Arabnews, so I don’t want to hear any nonsense about “the western media”.
The UN inspection team overlooked by Hans Blix reported that whatever weapons were there were destroyed and Iraq cooperated. The UN Inspection team knows more about it than you or ABC and hence why they said the war was not prudent since there was no evidence of any weapons of mass destruction, nor have any been found.
There is a 5 year difference between 1997 and now. To use that vague one liner about mustard gas as a jutification of war is pretty silly. Are you going to tell me that poses a threat to the U.S.? Nevermind that his rockets cannot even reach U.S. soil.
So we have to attack Saddam because of silly mustard gas and nerve agents? What about the U.S. and depleted Uranium? Surely someone should attack us for that, no? I mean look at all the depleted Uranium used on Iraq. What about America's own soldiers who came back with the 'Gulf War Syndrome' which the government vehemently denied?Achkerov kute.Comment
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Ohh so since you dont value life, its ok for Saddam to kill the kurds because he doesnt consider them his own people. Your closed mind riddled with fear of conspiracy theory will never allow you to see the truth. Read the news article. No matter what anyone puts up as evidence, you will never be able to see the truth. You will just tag it as some behind the scene construction of evidence. Thats bullxxxx. Poison gas is deadly. If you threw a bomb of that by a dorm building, everyone would die. You obviously dont know what WMDs are.Originally posted by AnonymouseComment
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Wow surferarmo, I expected more substance from you but all I get is opinionated ramblings which bear no facts to support your case.Originally posted by surferarmo
I never said it's ethically okay for Saddam to kill Kurds. I just tried to show the common fallacy of saying Kurds are his own people, which he doesn't consider them otherwise he wouldn't have killed them.
The fact that you call me closed minded and riddled with conspiracy shows how far you go. Conspiracy exists in all legal systems. I tried to demonstrate to you that if regular people can committ conspiracy so can the government as it is itself composed of people. You just either ignored for whatever odd reasons because it creates a revolt in your edifice of thought.
Evidence of weapons of mass destruction do not exist. Otherwise the U.S. wouldn't have been caught with forged papers. Why do you think they did this? They were humiliated worldwide for stooping so low.
What patlajan presented were nothing more than minor mustard gas and nerve gas which won't even reach U.S. soil. Those are silly weapons to use as a premise for war. I thought Saddam was elevated to the status of Hitler with all his ingenius nuclear weapons that were targeting the U.S. etc., etc. Ask yourself, how did he get those silly mustard gas rockets in the first place? Who helped fund his programs? The finger points back at the U.S.
Now unless you can make a valid case for war then this thread is like I said nothing but circular drivel. If Bush and Co. had to forge papers to convince the UN to support them for war, what makes you think posting little one liners from ABC website is going to hold any more credence?
Like I said, that was 1997, 5 years ago. The recent UN Inspection team under Hans Blix reported no such things and in fact overlooked the destruction of many of his "boogie man" weapons.
The only country in the Middle East to possess nuclear weapons is the terrorist state of Israel. Why isn't anyone harping on them about that? There is no evidence that Saddam possess anything like that, nor is a threat, nor has missile capabilities to reach the U.S. Come on, that's directly from Republican Generals in the Army.Achkerov kute.Comment
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I thought this link was a good read. Perhaps it might shed some light on how the minds of those in power work.
http://c0balt.com/resources/terror/terror.shtmlAchkerov kute.Comment
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