Originally posted by loseyourname I am willing to bet I have gained far more benefit from people than have either of you, and I didn't have to give or compromise even the slightest. Call me manipulative, call me immoral, but what I do works. 
			
		
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 The root of manipulation is unhappiness and a craving for self satisfaction, which one cannot achieve on his own, so he turns to malice. Benefit you speak of is only temporary, only until your next fix of puppetry practice. There is no greater feeling than that of compromise, in which case you kill two birds with one stone - satisfy yourself by satisfying others. If you fail to see the beauty of that than you are a sad, sad man.
 
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 And the uglies return to bring down the narcissist with their meaningless psychobabble. What kind of person posts with the sole intent of bringing down other posters, then claims that someone else is the sad man?
 
 I wish none of you anything but good will. If you could spend but one day with me, and watch me in the streets dancing in circles and singing "Over the Rainbow" with my eyes turned skyward, you would not say these terrible things.
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 When did we say anything about compromise, or "give"?Originally posted by loseyourname I am willing to bet I have gained far more benefit from people than have either of you, and I didn't have to give or compromise even the slightest. Call me manipulative, call me immoral, but what I do works.
 
 You cannot be manipulative, since you scored 28.. I think it was?...
 
 
   
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 I haven't paid a cent for a single article of clothing I own, nor for any vacation I have taken, ever. I have usually taken other people's cars on road trips, and I managed to live rent-free in a virtual mansion in northern New Jersey after knowing the owner for less than a week. Somehow, I'm managing to get what I want, and it aint by changing myself to fit a given expectation.Originally posted by spiral When did we say anything about compromise, or "give"?
 
 You cannot be manipulative, since you scored 28.. I think it was?...
 
 
   
 
 Actually, on second thought, maybe I am. When I think back to that questionnaire, it kept asking how you act in social situations or at parties. I don't even go to parties and I can't stand hanging out in groups, but I can be whatever one person wants me to be for one night if I can get what I need from them.
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 Oh please Lose, get off of it. You are the master of insults and all of a sudden you became sensitive? Where is your narcissism? If you become insulted by one minor sarcastic remark about you being a sad man, I fail to see how you would be successful at manipulating others. I think spiral resolved the confusion in her last post by pointing out the score.Originally posted by loseyourname And the uglies return to bring down the narcissist with their meaningless psychobabble. What kind of person posts with the sole intent of bringing down other posters, then claims that someone else is the sad man?
 
 I wish none of you anything but good will. If you could spend but one day with me, and watch me in the streets dancing in circles and singing "Over the Rainbow" with my eyes turned skyward, you would not say these terrible things.
 
 If I have offended you I apologize. Next time don't scream about your arrogance, since it's a clear target for attacks.
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 See dear anileve - you failed to read my last post. I am a changed man. Indeed a leopard can take off his spots and put on new ones. Now I am the chameleon, and I will mold myself to fit whatever situation I am in at any given moment.Originally posted by loseyourname Actually, on second thought, maybe I am. When I think back to that questionnaire, it kept asking how you act in social situations or at parties. I don't even go to parties and I can't stand hanging out in groups, but I can be whatever one person wants me to be for one night if I can get what I need from them.
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 What is this now? Why the attacks on your dear friend? Have you not learned that ego of the narcissistic is impervious to puncture? Many have tried, with more far more skill, and many have been far closer to me than either of you. Many have had their feelings severely hurt in this process, and though I feel the most genuine remorse for what has transpired, the narcissist cannot hold himself accountable for the failings of others or for the failure of their delusions.
 
 The man who fears nothing external to his own being cannot be hurt from outside of his own being, and it is pointless to throw these arrows you wield against the armor of solid steele that the narcissist possesses. I know that you find it fun to make the attempt, but I assure you that you waste your time, and by devoting your time to bringing down the narcissist, you have again become yet another pawn in his game of attention-grabbing.
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