Originally posted by sSsflamesSs A good narcissist will attempt to make out with himself in the mirror, followed by an exclamation of, "but it's not the same!"
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Originally posted by sSsflamesSs Among other things.
So, Loser, what say you regarding cloning?
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Is a narcissist someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone but him(or her)self?The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
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Originally posted by ckBejug Is a narcissist someone who doesn't give a damn about anyone but him(or her)self?
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According to the legends this Greek boy, Narcissus, fell in love with his own reflection in a pond. Narcissus was rejected by the nymph Echo and was punished by Nemesis-- he had to pine away as he fell in love with his own reflection. This sums up the nature of the narcissists.
It is a misconception that narcissists love themselves. In reality, they love impressions of themselves in the eyes of their beholders, of those people who put them on a pedestel and let themselves be taken advantage of by narcissists (who might not necessarily be out to take advantage, but if the offer is placed on the table, will not turn it away either).
Narcissists are said to be in love with themselves. But this is not true at all, if you think about it. Narcissus was not in love with HIMSELF. He was in love with his REFLECTION. There is a major difference between yourself and the reflection of yourself. And how does this apply to narcissists? Well, how do you see yourself if not in the way others see you? If you were all alone in the world with nary an opinion of another soul about yourself would you still think yourself beautiful, witty, intelligent, incredible, worth of your own love ten times over? Do you not use others as a comparison point? How do you know you're smart if there are no lesser brains out there to compare yourself to? No no, narcissists do not love themselves, they love their reflection.
You love what others see in you. What others admire in you, you admire in yourself. If not, then you wouldn't welcome the attention and the love and adoration of others. You'd shun it. To need not these things means you remove yourself from equations in which they are freely offered, not put yourself in those situations... But you're not a true narcissist because the attention, which you deem an unnecessary perk, is still something you admit that you enjoy. Make sense?The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
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No, it doesn't make sense. First, you say a narcissist does not love himself, but rather what others see in him, then you say I am not a narcissist because I look for others to see good things in me. That is exactly what you just said a narcissist should be.
Furthermore, you just stated the basis of a narcissist's self-love. Of course it is derived from a favorable comparison with others. I have already pointed this out. In order for the narcissist to be beautiful, there must exist a great majority of persons that he is more beautiful than. In order for him to consider himself intellectually gifted, the vast majority of persons must have an IQ far lower than his. Simply explaining the basis of the love does not do away with the love. Truly the narcissist loves the way he appears to others, but this is not of the utmost importance. For you forget that it is Narcissus himself that is viewing his own reflection. It is the way he looks to himself that he loves. The true narcissist is likely to be nearly oblivious to what others really see and most likely won't even care all that much. In fact, the truly good narcissist will believe that insults he receives are in fact compliments, to the point of self-delusion if he does not receive enough genuine compliments. This is the danger in becoming a narcissist; one might become very shut off from reality if the narcissism does not have a sound basis in the opinions of both oneself and of others.
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Originally posted by loseyourname No, it doesn't make sense. First, you say a narcissist does not love himself, but rather what others see in him, then you say I am not a narcissist because I look for others to see good things in me. That is exactly what you just said a narcissist should be.
The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald
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