Woman MADE him rape her

[Siamanto]

catwoman ... i will malestor siamato regardless... i am a straight woman and damn if he looks good in shorts then YES!

just because he/she "looks good" or is "cuuute" doesn't mean you can have him/her

hyebruin,
Is that witty??? Two birds in one stone???

[Red Brigade]

Of course everyone here is reflecting their cultural biases when they say this is acceptable and that is not acceptable and if you dress such a way etc - I mean look at our red Brigade here - he consideres himself a communist - but he reflects purely unenlightened fundementalist religious values. I find it facsinating how the Christian and Muslim (paternalistic based) religions hold such severe (slave like) attitudes towards women where in cultures such as India - with the Hindu heritage - the beauty of women has always been apreciated and sensuality has always been held in very high regard. Anyway - of course rape can never be justified - but this shows that not all peoples have truly realized the concepts of human rights where a woman is a human being - with full rights of realization of her life - and is not just property or some kind of secondary order creature. When I see a picture such as those 3 girls that was posted I say more power to them. Why should women not be allowed or be denigrated for wanting to have a good time - in whatever way they see fit? Why are wome held to a different standard then men? What can truly be thge rationale? Why is it we call a woman a s lut is she enjoys sex and if she wants to experince and enjoy many men (or even just to go out and drink and party and be losse or whatnot - flirt and have a good time - what can truly be wrong with this?) - when a man is not so stigmatized but is perhaps even looked up to for this sort of thing? And even if women chose to walk around naked (and obvioulsy according to the views of this Egyptian - and many not of the West - or even many fundies here - she essentially is naked if she is showing anything at all and attempting to look good - etc) - there is still no excuse for rape. Anyway - of course we cannot expect those in these other cultures to change overnight - though I find the persistence of these types of attitudes in Western countries very disturbing - it is another example of the Christian legacy that I think we can do without.

First of all it would be wise to check my first post when i clearly stated that rape is illegal and it can not be justified , this is the third time i state it.
Of course a woman can do whatever she wants as well , i never said the opposit.What i simply said is if you are going for a walk just with your bikini,
then you are obviously going to be seen as a sexual object from the vast majority of men.I didn't said it is correct i am simply stating a fact.This has nothing to do about religions it is about people's difrent morals and values.If you like to be a slu t for example you are free to do so , but you will have to face the consequences of your actions ,positive or negative.
Every action in this world has a consequence.ACTION - CONSEQUENCE.It is not nuclear physics to have so much hard time to comprehend this universal rule.So in my last analysis, if you go out with dressed like those three very cute little kids in the picture , then be prepared for the consquences -whatever those are :rape , abuse, disrepsect ,praise ,admiration ,respect, anything positive or negative.

[nunechka]

red brig jan! hangstatsi!

its ok... BTW how old are you? i suspect you are younger then I am, in which case you - there is so much to learn...

[Red Brigade]

Mersi ,hangist em Nune jan , ev 19 tarekan em.

[Anonymouse]

First of all it would be wise to check my first post when i clearly stated that rape is illegal and it can not be justified , this is the third time i state it.
Of course a woman can do whatever she wants as well , i never said the opposit.What i simply said is if you are going for a walk just with your bikini,
then you are obviously going to be seen as a sexual object from the vast majority of men.

That is true although I'd argue that if one is not gay, we only hope that a woman, whether or not she has a bikini is a sexual object for a man.

I didn't said it is correct i am simply stating a fact.This has nothing to do about religions it is about people's difrent morals and values.If you like to be a slu t for example you are free to do so , but you will have to face the consequences of your actions ,positive or negative.
Every action in this world has a consequence.ACTION - CONSEQUENCE.It is not nuclear physics to have so much hard time to comprehend this universal rule.So in my last analysis, if you go out with dressed like those three very cute little kids in the picture , then be prepared for the consquences -whatever those are :rape , abuse, disrepsect ,praise ,admiration ,respect, anything positive or negative.

If you go out for a walk, prepare for the consequences, whatever they may be, getting hit by a car as it comes off road and into the sidewalk, getting mugged and having your money stolen, or being greeted by your wonderful neighbor.

[nairi]

Actually prostitues should be more respected than s luts.That is because the prostitutes most of the times are forced to do what they do , either from the society or some other reason , and either way they work very hard in what they do and they get paid as well.
On the other hand s luts do it not because they have been forced to ,but because they do it on their free will and for free as well.They seek humiliation so
they should not whine so much if they get raped.

I never know how to reply to your kind. Perhaps with puke would be the simplest way..

[Siggie]

I never know how to reply to your kind. Perhaps with puke would be the simplest way..

"Belief in a just world" - to think that those who these things happen to somehow deserved it helps some to feel safer.
If she doesn't dress that way, it won't happen to her. She doesn't deserve it.

[sad_eyes]

Men, always looking for excuses. :P

[Red Brigade]

I never know how to reply to your kind. Perhaps with puke would be the simplest way..

Its very logical to repsect a prostitute more than a s lut.I didnt had any intention to insult you.
For example they are bringing women from ex-soviet countries in west Europe lately and they are treating them exactly like slaves.They promise them that they will help them find a job.I have seen this 100 times.In the end after they move in the foriegn country , without the knowledge of the language ,without any papers , they get beaten ,threatend that if they try to go to police they and their families will die.The women then get sold to other ''bussinesmen''and so it continues.It is the modern slave trades.Its happening with young kids as well.
So its quite logical , that i will respect a prostitute which is forced in a situation like that ,more than a s lut which doesnt know what selfrespect means and never heared about a love on a plane higher than that of the merely physical.

[winoman]

I must apologize - I think I was mistaken in equating RedBrigade's thinking with that of religious fundementalists who think women are sub-human. My apologies to the religious fundementalists.