London Terror Bombings Kill 37, Wound 700

[GSTracer05]

and may i ask you why do you join an army.... to play paintball maybe?

You join an army to serve your country, as a way to show appreciation and give back to the country for all of the freedoms and luxuries that it has provided for you and your family. No body joins the army to go and kill Arabs overseas.

[GSTracer05]

Do you live in the US?

[A592]

ah kiddo.... you are so sweet in your innocence.... i live in Turkey.. your so called strategic partner... i just completed my military service by the way... i know what you do in an army baby...

[anoush719]

As is being pointed out to me, I see it's pretty useless to try and reason with you G whatever.

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You make it seem as if the Serbs were doing nothing, just going about their daily lives and out of nowhere the US and NATO decide to bomb them.

No, the Serbs weren't allowed to go about their daily lives. Really, you shouldn't be talking about something you know nothing about. They were victims of terrorist attacks on a daily basis. They had outside influences stirring up trouble, which caused three of the regions of their country to try and illegally break away, disregarding the contitutional rule of law and persecuting Serbians living in those regions. They were trying to DEFEND themselves.

Why don't you state the other side of the story? The reason I am commenting on your posts is because you pick a side and point out flaws.

They are GUILTY, yet they accuse. That's what you are doing, you are unable to see or comprehend another point of view.

Anyone can sit here and point out mistakes. I do not see you running for office and taking responsibily for those decisions and I don't see you bringing up ideas on how to solve problems. It's easy for you to sit and criticize difficult decisions when you are not held responsible for them.

I'm not running for office because that is not my calling in life. You have to have MONEY to run for office. You're beginning to sound just like Nairi.

The fault in your judgement is that you are letting emotion take over rational thinking. If that is the basis of your thinking, then heck, lets just carpet bomb every Turk, every other Muslim, heck lets throw the Jews in there for good mesaure, and be done with it. As Siggie said, two wrongs do not make a right.

You're the one trying to justify your country's war crimes. Again, they are guilty, yet they accuse. You are making up any and all excuses for the war crimes committed in Yugoslavia and Iraq. Like the other poster said, you would also probably approve of using the atom bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. After all, what's a few hundred thousand lives of inferior gook Japanese women and children to save a couple hundred superior US soldiers??

Your mentality and outlook are only going to make things worse because you definitely cannot perceive of any other outlook besides, "my country right or wrong." Well, if you want to go around dumping bombs on people, don't be surprised when they throw some back. It is YOU thinking that two wrongs don't make a right because they are gonna happen to you or your friends. Don't think that you can abuse people with impunity. I am not justifying it but it is a FACT OF LIFE. As they say, "what goes around comes around."

[A592]

he speaks just like we Turkish parrots do... huh Anoush what do you say?

[Siggie]

Let's all take a deep breath together okay?
Iiiiiiiiiin... okay now hold it... exhale

Let's try and be a little nicer to each other please?
On that note, for clarification purposes... Anoush jan, I didn't mean "you missed the point" in the way it may have seemed to you now that I look at it again. I just meant that I didn't feel like my question was answered. Sorry if it seemed confrontational or anything like that. Just trying to understand your point of you.
"I'm just here to learn" Difference being that I mean it.

[Pamooshjian]

I can't believe you guys are sitting here trying to justify what has occured in London.

We're not trying to justify it. We're only saying that we have no sympathy for those who have no sympathy for others.

I am not a supporter of many of US and NATO policies but to sit here and say that you do not care if people are dying, whether it be a US, British, or Iraqi citizen is just absurd.

Wrong again and I'm getting sick of your jew-speak, real quick. This is only your second sentence and what you are writing is what's absurd. Show me where we said we didn't care, be they American, british or Iraqi? You can't because we said no such thing or anything even remotely close to it. You claim that you're not a supporter of many US and NATO policies, but your actions tell me otherwise. You're one of them, "My country wrong or right" types.

It's easy to sit in the safety of your little home and type out your ignorant and biased opinions when you have not lost a family member, relative, or friend to war or terrorism.

It may be biased, but it's far from ignorant and I will warn you right now to stop your insults or I will cut loose with some of my own if you're not given a warning by a moderator. I can just as easily say the same thing about you not losing any friend or family member in Iraq due to the naked agression and terrorist attacks on Iraq by the US and co. And "terrorism" is something that you know little or nothing about and it's just a catchy word that Americans and their kind like to throw around loosly. I say that it's the US that's the rogue terrorist state. You probably think that terrorism in the ME was started by Palestinians.

Human life is human life.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight! And I'm sooooooooooo sure that you were out there protesting the attacks against Iraq. Actually, I'm almost positive that YOU were the one to justify the attacks and the civilian casualties, well, they were just "collateral damage".

Also mistakes are a part of human nature. Has the US and its allies made many mistakes? Sure.

No, they were not mistakes. They were deliberate and calculated acts. The mere fact that they haven't tried to correct their "mistake" is proof enough that it was all done deliberately. It was the Americans who gave Saddam the green light to invade Kuwait and that wasn't a "mistake" it was a set-up. The WMD BS wasn't a mistake either. They knew very well that he had no WMD, because they had a pretty good idea of his inventory, because they had the reciepts of what had been delivered to Saddam for the war against Iran.

But to say that you do not feel any symapthy for the lives lost due to a retaliation, a cowardly retaliation, is just not right.

And what do you call dropping bombs on civillians? An act of bravery?

And as for Anoush719, you must think you're very clever with your "shock and awe" reference.

Not so funny when you're the one on the recieving end, is it!? Oh and 9/11, that was "Collateral damage"!

I'd like for you and your family members to have lived in Iraq at the time of Sadam's regime, when he beat, tortured, raped, gased, and killed hundreds, if not thousands of people, and then see you come on here and just mouth off on stuff you've read and heard in the media.

This sentence tells a lot about you and moral values of which you actually have none. How come Saddam was a fine man when he was killing Iranians? How come the Kurds become such an issue when it's regarding those who are living in Iraq and they are called "freedon fighters" and those same Kurds living in turkey aren't such an issue when they are beat, tortured, raped (incidentally, it was the US and co that gave Saddam that gas to use on the Iranians) and killed as they are "terrorists". BTW, the reason why we "mouth off" as you put it (and I will warn you again), is because we don't just read and listen to only what is spewed out the jew owned media.

What have you done to give back to the country that has given you freedom, the ability to live a relatively safe life, and the chance to pursue prosperity and happiness to a degree that you could not find in other third world nations?

I'm glad that I don't live in the jew SA. But if living there meant that I would have to condone and/or participate in attacks on weaker countries and kill their civillians by the thousands in a most cowardly fashion by bombing them from reletave safetey high in the sky in order to steal their natural resources so I can get my gas for a nickel less, I think I would pass.

[Anonymouse]

They can criticize and I can criticize them for it. So who are you to tell me to shut up? This is an open forum - one that even puts up with all the spam you post. Go back to working on your post count man. I do not support the decision for war but I am not going to turn my back on our troops, especially since some are my friends. Our troops did not enlist in the armed forces specifically for going to Iraq. You've served in the military? You know about dissention and its penalties?

And if its okay for that shmuck a52093043 whatever his s/n is to sit here and say that those in London deserved that attack, then its okay for me to sit here and express my opinion.

Oh no! The car nut wants to insult me by pointing to my post count. How original! I am so insulted!

Now as far as the troops, there is a thing called citing a religious excuse which many who have opposed it have used. They cannot be penalized for their religion, now can they? The point being, if they really believe that the war is wrong they can abstain.

As far as supporting the troops, just what does your pea brain mean? Even if it's an unjust war based on lies, where thousands of innocent people have died, we have to "support the troops"? When you say "support the troops" do you mean supporting them in action, or bringing them back? Also, no one deserves to be a victim of violence which is based on the policies of the governments. I suppose I support the troops too, by wanting them brought back.

Those folks in London would not have died, nor would your friends be in Iraq had it not been for the policies of the governments. So therefore the cause is foreign policy. Nothing more.

[Pamooshjian]

As far as supporting the troops, just what does your pea brain mean? Even if it's an unjust war based on lies, where thousands of innocent people have died, we have to "support the troops"?

We know EXACTLY what he means. "My country right or wrong" says it all. Subliminal messages via the idiot box, meat puppet programming through the education system, something they put in the water and too many John Wayne movies. We know his kind.

[anoush719]

They can criticize and I can criticize them for it. So who are you to tell me to shut up? This is an open forum - one that even puts up with all the spam you post. Go back to working on your post count man. I do not support the decision for war but I am not going to turn my back on our troops, especially since some are my friends. Our troops did not enlist in the armed forces specifically for going to Iraq. You've served in the military? You know about dissention and its penalties?

I am quite familiar with what you call "dissention" and its penalties. I am also familiar with war crimes and its penalties. Which is worse? Do you think that US military can go on forever with war crimes unpunished? Every person who volunteers for military service knows the penalties, knows what they want from their military service. Usually it's for free education and a steady paycheck. But they have to make a choice. Are you friends Armenian? If they are, I would certainly expect more from them when it comes to choices regarding morality. I would actually expect any member of the military to refuse to be a part of war crimes. Nobody told them to join up, they were not drafted.

And if its okay for that shmuck a52093043 whatever his s/n is to sit here and say that those in London deserved that attack, then its okay for me to sit here and express my opinion.

You say you don't support the war, then you say you do. You are clearly of the "my country right or wrong" mentality despite your claims to the contrary. Yours is the mentality that is responsible for most of the incidences of genocide in the world.