I'm So Angry/Sad/Annoyed Right Now

[Anonymouse]

Actually, I inhaled.

[One-Way]

So has everyone who has tried it. He lied.

[Anonymouse]

So has everyone who has tried it. He lied.

Not really. I know someone who did not inhale.

[Lamb Boy]

What's weak about expressing regret over something that I feel I shouldn't have done?

Anon - It's just out of character ... regret that is. That was also what Bill stated he regretted doing, or lying about, along with all the other bull.

One-Way- by quoting your response to Karoper I was illustrating to you how hypocritical you were being. If she's 17 and (in)capable of having a long term relationship then she's plenty enough of an adult in my book. If I were you I wouldn't have all of my standards handed to me by the Federal government. You're an adult and you too can formulate your own opinions just like I stated that she could. Just because I was defending her right to do whatever she wants to w/o having to follow your "orders" doesn't make me the resident druggie ROFLMAO@S!! Orders is what you were giving her NOT advice as real friends do not turn their back on one and another because one of them decides not to follow what the other one says. You gave her an ultimatum which she probably took as advice then and then get mad at her when she doesn't understand your new attitude ...

Drinking btw leads to ppl dying every year ... but that's ok right just because it’s legal? Oh and alcohol isn't a drug because the Federal Government hasn't labeled it as one? ... pfft Once again letting the Fed dictate your own standards. The majority of your state doesn’t even agree with you as they have shown that not only is mj not as bad as you make it out to be but can and should be used as a medicine. You must have missed that vote ...

[Siggie]

Life in the teens is pretty different and maybe those who are a little older can support me on this... You don't view friendships the same way and they aren't the same way. None of my hs friends are my friends now and I did view advice my friends then gave me differently than now. I think even though at age we tended to think we knew way more than we did, I don't think we necessarily believed our friends knew enough for their advice to be valuable on some issues. Now, I have a tremendous amount of respect for my friends and their views and opinions are more important to me.
This could also be that my friends then and now are completely different people differing in more ways than age though.
I think buried in there, Lamb has a point about orders. We can give advice to our friends, but I don't think we have a right to give orders. Their decisions are just that... theirs.

Just because she didn't value your advice now, doesn't mean that she never will. Hindsight is an amazing thing. I think we all have memories of things we did and now think back and can't imagine what the heck we were thinking or how we could have arrived at such a stupid decision. It happens. If you're smart, you look back, learn, and move on.
You should just feel good that you did what you believe is right and had her best interest in mind. What she chooses to do with that is in her hands. She'll either come around and see that you really care about her and be a better friend or if she doesn't you can think about whether that's really a friend you'd want.

[Anonymouse]

Anon - It's just out of character ... regret that is. That was also what Bill stated he regretted doing, or lying about, along with all the other bull.

Well, Bill's a politician, so he has to be careful since the whole media and his adversaries are all waiting for something to use against him.

I don't think it's a fair analogy. I never said I didn't inhale it. Bill Clinton is an idiot.

[One-Way]

One-Way- by quoting your response to Karoper I was illustrating to you how hypocritical you were being. If she's 17 and (in)capable of having a long term relationship then she's plenty enough of an adult in my book. If I were you I wouldn't have all of my standards handed to me by the Federal government. You're an adult and you too can formulate your own opinions just like I stated that she could. Just because I was defending her right to do whatever she wants to w/o having to follow your "orders" doesn't make me the resident druggie ROFLMAO@S!! Orders is what you were giving her NOT advice as real friends do not turn their back on one and another because one of them decides not to follow what the other one says. You gave her an ultimatum which she probably took as advice then and then get mad at her when she doesn't understand your new attitude ...

Drinking btw leads to ppl dying every year ... but that's ok right just because it’s legal? Oh and alcohol isn't a drug because the Federal Government hasn't labeled it as one? ... pfft Once again letting the Fed dictate your own standards. The majority of your state doesn’t even agree with you as they have shown that not only is mj not as bad as you make it out to be but can and should be used as a medicine. You must have missed that vote ...

Yeah, but I don't really think I was ordering her around as much as I was trying to give her advice. Maybe the whole story got exaggerated on this forum, but when I talked to her, I just told her, "I honestly don't think you should try it, don't do it because your friends do it." And when she did do it, I was just disappointed.

There's just a certain way you're talking to me and Siggie talking to me. It's like you're trying to win a court case by slamming me to the ground. Ease up, lamb chop.

[Lamb Boy]

Life in the teens is pretty different and maybe those who are a little older can support me on this... You don't view friendships the same way and they aren't the same way. None of my hs friends are my friends now and I did view advice my friends then gave me differently than now. I think even though at age we tended to think we knew way more than we did, I don't think we necessarily believed our friends knew enough for their advice to be valuable on some issues. Now, I have a tremendous amount of respect for my friends and their views and opinions are more important to me.
This could also be that my friends then and now are completely different people differing in more ways than age though.
I think buried in there, Lamb has a point about orders. We can give advice to our friends, but I don't think we have a right to give orders. Their decisions are just that... theirs.

Just because she didn't value your advice now, doesn't mean that she never will. Hindsight is an amazing thing. I think we all have memories of things we did and now think back and can't imagine what the heck we were thinking or how we could have arrived at such a stupid decision. It happens. If you're smart, you look back, learn, and move on.
You should just feel good that you did what you believe is right and had her best interest in mind. What she chooses to do with that is in her hands. She'll either come around and see that you really care about her and be a better friend or if she doesn't you can think about whether that's really a friend you'd want.

Yes sometimes I forget how differently we perceive things in the teens and early twenties. Although for me the younger I was the less inclined I was to listen to my friends, as you pointed out Siggie, mainly because they must have been equally as inexperienced and ill prepared to dish out any advice. At least as we become older the advice given seems to be much more thoughtful and based on real experience of the person giving it.

Unfortunately hindsight is 20/20 so some of the advice given in previous years will come back to bite all of us in the butt. Still life isn't about always learning from others mistakes more than creating our own.

I admit I verbally shoot first and ask questions later. Sorry to sound so crass One-Way. I should learn to articulate myself w/o being a total jerk ...

Still there is a difference b/w advice and issuing orders. I personally would rather have a dope smoking idiot for a friend than an "order giving" person who labeled themselves as my friend. I'd also rather have a dope smoking idiot for a friend than an alcoholic. Mj imo is mos def the lesser of these two evils ... if it even constitutes an evil. In general people shouldn't be so judgmental about consensual crimes ... I really don't see how ppl can get so upset about something that doesn't affect them at all in a physical harm sense.

[One-Way]

^ Thanks for calling me an "order giving" person when you don't even know the half of the story. Second, it's your opinion if you want a pothead friend. Honestly, seems to me you yourself are a pothead and you're trying to prove something. But who are you trying to prove - yourself?

I'm not an alcoholic as you say. Yeah, I joke around and call myself that, but you don't even know my lifestyle. Come take a look, then make a judgement. You don't see anyone of us judging you, do you?

[One-Way]

I really don't see how ppl can get so upset about something that doesn't affect them at all in a physical harm sense.

That's the difference between us. I have feelings and I care for the girl. You obviously don't.