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  • #321
    Re: War in The Middle East

    Originally posted by Anonymouse
    And who says Armenians reject any concept that looks down on non-Armenians? Every people in varying degrees has different levels of intolerance towards "the other" in order to ensure its own survival. It may be better in some than others, or more potent, but that is the case. And just what about Armenians suggests to you that we are universally well liked? We may not be on the level of most Joos, however, statements like that are still unwarranted.
    Yes, we do reject any concept that looks down on any non-Armenian. If you need a proof to see how tolerant our nation is towards others then just talk to any of the ethnic and religious minorities who call the Republic of Armenia (RA) their home. From RA’s biggest minorities Yezidi Kurds and Molokan Russians to the smallest Ukrainians, Greeks and others. We, as a nation and as a state, have never discriminated against any of them.

    Why do you think for example the Yezidis have always volunteered, fought and died alongside us when we fought our enemies? Because a) they consider Armenia to be their homeland, our enemies are their enemies and b) no other nation has ever treated Yezidis better than the Armenians.

    Even the case with the Azeri Turks, a significant ethnic minority in the past (during the Soviet period), even they were treated by us with respect and dignity. In the early 90-ies, after the Armenian massacres which took place all over Azerbaijan, they were told to leave and they were never massacred!

    We have a significant number of J-e-w-s too, and I have never heard any of them complaining or any local Armenian speaking badly about them. They are treated as equal citizens, something that unfortunately can not be said about the way they threat our people (ethnic Armenians with Israeli passports) in Israel, the likes of our Jerusalem Armenians for example who live there and have continuous presence for over fourteen centuries. But in the last 50 odd years they were subjected to low and high-level bureaucratic discrimination and outright attacks on our clergymen. This Israeli state level, hidden discrimination and at times quite open, street level discrimination have led to lot of our people leaving Jerusalem.

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    • #322
      Re: War in The Middle East

      nobody has a plan like "new mid east"...except USA my friend... it is not entirely a pop culture or miss condy rice likes to be a popular girl huh? this reminds me a saying like " a dog bound to die pisses on the mosque wall " and israel is peeing at the moment and USA is holding the pissing equipment of joos. oh how i miss the USSR... too bad they are gone

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      • #323
        Re: War in The Middle East

        Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz
        Yes, we do reject any concept that looks down on any non-Armenian. If you need a proof to see how tolerant our nation is towards others then just talk to any of the ethnic and religious minorities who call the Republic of Armenia (RA) their home. From RA’s biggest minorities Yezidi Kurds and Molokan Russians to the smallest Ukrainians, Greeks and others. We, as a nation and as a state, have never discriminated against any of them.

        Why do you think for example the Yezidis have always volunteered, fought and died alongside us when we fought our enemies? Because a) they consider Armenia to be their homeland, our enemies are their enemies and b) no other nation has ever treated Yezidis better than the Armenians.

        Even the case with the Azeri Turks, a significant ethnic minority in the past (during the Soviet period), even they were treated by us with respect and dignity. In the early 90-ies, after the Armenian massacres which took place all over Azerbaijan, they were told to leave and they were never massacred!

        We have a significant number of J-e-w-s too, and I have never heard any of them complaining or any local Armenian speaking badly about them. They are treated as equal citizens, something that unfortunately can not be said about the way they threat our people (ethnic Armenians with Israeli passports) in Israel, the likes of our Jerusalem Armenians for example who live there and have continuous presence for over fourteen centuries. But in the last 50 odd years they were subjected to low and high-level bureaucratic discrimination and outright attacks on our clergymen. This Israeli state level, hidden discrimination and at times quite open, street level discrimination have led to lot of our people leaving Jerusalem.
        That wasn't the point. There are many non-xxxs that live within Israel, so what? The point is about mans natural and cognitive ability of prejudice.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #324
          Re: War in The Middle East

          Here are some pictures of Israel's handiwork. Warning: If you cannot tolerate watching goric images of war do not click.

          http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/newswire/display/176/index.php
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #325
            Re: War in The Middle East

            Originally posted by Sip
            Well that and the 1/x thing too ... Except that if I remember my elementary calculus correctly, if you integrate 1/x, it'll diverge while 1/x^2 and 1/x^3 will converge. So I hope that has some brearing on what Karoaper was trying to say
            Wow, nice point, Christianity has hope, if we symbolicly speaking integrate it, while the other two are plumb xxxxed, cause let's be honest who's gonna integrate them twice and thrice.

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            • #326
              Re: War in The Middle East

              Originally posted by Anonymouse
              That wasn't the point. There are many non-xxxs that live within Israel, so what? The point is about mans natural and cognitive ability of prejudice.
              You said “Every people in varying degrees has different levels of intolerance towards "the other" in order to ensure its own survival”. You mention “people” in other words nations and ethnicities, not just man in general. And I said, no, Armenian nation does not have that “intolerance towards the other” and I brought you a few examples of that in my post.

              You said “There are many non-xxxs that live within Israel, so what?”
              I’ll tell you what. If you ever come across a really committed and educated Zionist just talk to him about the Armenian Quarter of Jerusalem then you will see what I mean. It starts with an arrogant smirk and, depending on your efforts, what facts you bring forward, you might even witness eyes full of hatred.

              Because this goyim, just like a lot of our brothers in Jerusalem will not let them (or anyone else for that matter) walk over us.
              Last edited by HayotzAmrotz; 07-27-2006, 06:30 PM.

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              • #327
                Re: War in The Middle East

                I missed this one:

                Originally posted by Anonymouse
                And who says Armenians reject any concept that looks down on non-Armenians? Every people in varying degrees has different levels of intolerance towards "the other" in order to ensure its own survival.
                I suggest you take a good look around and you will see how "otaramol" we Armenians are. Remember the term otaramol, remember Tunot? I don't understand why you are arguing this obvious point I made. Do you think Armenians would accept the idea that non-Armenians are biologically and spiritually lesser than us? Do you think Armenians have deep hate and paranoia towards non-Armenians? Please dont argue this issue, just go out and observe Armenians in their natural habitat.

                Oh, and in Israel non-J-e-w-s are essentially second class citizens, simple laborers. I suggest you speak to one who has lived there or visited there. Israel is a theocracy. How many Armenians would support the idea of a theocratic rule in Armenia, where all otars get put into a 'lesser' catagory? I recommend you read Israel Shahak's excellent book: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/xxxhis.htm

                And just what about Armenians suggests to you that we are universally well liked? We may not be on the level of most Joos, however, statements like that are still unwarranted.
                Thats funny. Can you please list how many evictions, pogroms and massacres we Armenians have suffered at the hands of Europeans, Arabs, Russian, Iranians, etc. I suggest you don't bring into this conversation thousand year old political issues that existed between the Armenian nation and various surrounding powers. I also suggest we stay away from the 'skinhead' problems in Russia. In reality, our only problem has been Turkic. Nonetheless, even within the Ottoman Empire Armenians were very well respected and well liked. Our Turkish problem essentially developed about a hundred years ago.

                Armenians, as a people, reached the highest status within all nations they dwelt in - Persia, Rome, Byzantium, Medieval Georgia, Medieval Poland, Ottoman Empire, Arab Caliphate, Safavid Persia, Crusader States, Russia, France, Soviet Union. America, etc. Thus, we were accepted by Muslims, Christians, Pagans, Bolsheviks, westerners and easterners alike - unlike you know who. If you want, I can post a veeeeeeeeeeeeery long list of all the nations, all the dates, where J-e-w-s were chased out and/or massacred en-mass by westerners, easterners, Christians, Muslims and Pagans.
                Last edited by Armenian; 07-27-2006, 06:56 PM.
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                • #328
                  Re: War in The Middle East

                  Originally posted by Armenian
                  In reality, our only problem has been Turkic.
                  You are 110% right, enger.

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                  • #329
                    Re: War in The Middle East



                    Greater Israel (also Complete Land of Israel, Hebrew: ארץ ישראל השלמה, Eretz Yisrael Hashlemah) is an irredentist term that denotes historical and Biblical boundaries of the Land of Israel.

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                    • #330
                      Re: War in The Middle East

                      I heard Armenia gave $40,000 to Lebanon

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