Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[levon]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I would love to see data to this effect because in all my psychological training, this is the first time I'm hearing this.

Oh, yes, of course, someone in western academia would be brave enough to suggest anything that would imply women shouldn't have sex before marriage.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

LOL, you can't tell me you haven't picked up on ways to read people.... YOU CAN'T BE THIS INHUMAN.

"reading" psychological disorder? That sounds like it would be a super-accurate and objective measurement.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Well then is there a blind-study of men "picking it up" at a higher than 50% accuracy? Yeah, didn't think so.

Summary:
Yes, I just made a claim that there's a real effect of X on Y. What, data?, no... Y can't be measured, so there's actually no data to support the claim that X causes Y. Just take my word for it!

LOL, you can't tell me you haven't picked up on ways to read people.... YOU CAN'T BE THIS INHUMAN.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

It's something men can pick up on, they don't teach it in psychology.

Well then is there a blind-study of men "picking it up" at a higher than 50% accuracy? Yeah, didn't think so.

Summary:
Yes, I just made a claim that there's a real effect of X on Y. What, data?, no... Y can't be measured, so there's actually no data to support the claim that X causes Y. Just take my word for it!

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I would love to see data to this effect because in all my psychological training, this is the first time I'm hearing this.

It's something men can pick up on, they don't teach it in psychology.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

the overall psychological effect of being cheated usually develops into personality disorders.

I would love to see data to this effect because in all my psychological training, this is the first time I'm hearing this.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I respect the fact that one may choose to wait but I don't think it's something that should be forced upon them. Also, I dislike the double standard that men can be with however many women they want but once a woman has been with a few men she is a "$lut", etc.
I wonder, if a woman was raped, would she still seem "unpure" for some men? I would suppose so...
Some men also believe that they are expected to be more experienced than women and that they are the ones who are supposed to "share" their experience with women.

A woman who was raped might be horrified about the experience have psychological issues in the future that would make her resent her sexuality. The reason for the double standard in the Armenian community is that men can experience sex without a relationship (with women who are obviously far from virgin) but girls can't and those that do lose their virginity to a guy who had no intentions for commitment feel cheated and develop psychological issues towards men. The issue with virginity among women isn't about the physical aspects but the mental aspects that develop. Granted some women are stronger in this regard but the overall psychological effect of being cheated usually develops into personality disorders. Most Armenian parents allow their boys to experience the world and at the same time protect the girls from the world. This is usually accepted by both parents.

[levon]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You need to be taught to think whether or not you're content matters? It doesn't matter if you enjoy it, you do it to please your husband and/or to have children anyway?
As men, do you really not care whether she enjoys it?
Or is it that "traditional women" are simply taught to not discuss it?

And how do you know traditional women don't enjoy it. We'll just never know because as KanadaHye says, some things are meant to stay between a couple.

Because they'd rather stay with you than make more money?

Sex is almost always payed for. The difference with the prostitute is that the payment is negotiated and made upfront. When sex is not with a prostitute, it appears free but comes with the possibility of a relationship, marriage, divorce, child support, alimony, domestic violence and rape charges. Sometimes it's good to negotiate the payment upfront, makes things that much more simple.

I thought it was so they can go out to dinner and catch a show after you were done. By the way, I think the movie Pretty Woman glamorized prostitution and made all women legit don't you? lol

lol. Well, if a prostitute can be hitched by a well off wealthy guy, then what's the point of holding out.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Between a couple?

No, during a threesome. I'm using Azad's approach with this topic.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

They don't discuss it because people's personal lives shouldn't be a subject of discussion. It's "amot" and that's not just an Armenian term, there are certain aspects of life which traditional societies defined to be shameful.

Between a couple?