Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[One-Way]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The reason y I posted this is to know the opinions of some armenians in our community because I am doing research about this...

Okay, in that case, here is my opinion.

I believe if two people love each other -- and I don't mean movie love -- where you really like somebody but once you glance at other guy/girl, you fall in love again. I mean true love, it exists, maybe some people might not agree, and I wouldn't have either two years ago but I'm talking about love.

If two people love each other, they will do whatever their other half suggets. That means if the girl tells the guy (whether or not the guy is a virgin) that she wants to wait until marriage, the guy should agree, no question. There should be no talk of him cheating because she's not having sex with him or anthing else. That just means it's not love and it was founded on NOTHING. This work vice versa, obviously.

As I said, I know many guys/girls who are waiting for marriage and they are not necessarily Armenian. I know many families who sit and talk to their kids about sex and all that junk. I also know many families who haven't slipped a word about sex to their kids. Guess what? It doesn't matter. Most parents these days know nothing about parenting. These decisions are going to be left up to our generation of Armenian guys and girls. More likely than not, they are going to pick up things they see on TV, magazines and what they witness from friends.

I don't care who you are, if you're hanging out with the wrong group of people, chances are you will end up going the wrong things. I speak from experience; I've seen people get torn apart in the real world, not because that's their character but because of their circle of friends. With that said, there are genuine people who look for love, find it, and wait for marriage. If people think like you do with the mentality of "It would be great if people waited for marriage, but it's not happening" then yes, people won't be waiting for marriage. People think love is impossible to find and every guy/girl they meet will have already had sex. The fact is do as you wish and if you are goodhearted and looking for what I just talked about; it will find you. If not, there are plenty of the other types of girls out there. Good luck.

[RareChik]

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rarechik, there's more to life than worrying about how much others think and go about their sex lives. You think guys have sex every day, and there are exceptions to this rule? What kind of thinking is that? Perhaps most guys might pursue sex every day, many of those days in vain.

But who cares, I enjoy life more by not pursuing it, except when I'm talking to someone who tells me they're interested in me and I feel the same about them.

As a consequence, I feel more relaxed and a lot of these sexual pressures you're feeling that you're taking out on "Armenian mentality" is not that important in my life. I also find that when young women dress casually, with a slightly conservative tone to it, not matter how pretty they may be, the eyes and stares of guys all around change accordingly and stop considering her so much as eye candy, but rather, a pretty face at best, and this in turn might affect the comfort level of the lady and help her think about better things than what kind of sexual thoughts are going on in her society, and sexual standards, etc.... Perhaps you should look into it if you haven't already.

This post is not about ME or my frustrations...it's about our community mostly in the US...What all of u guys need to understand who are jumping from one end to the other is that nobody is sitting down an worrying about sex, this is a forum, so u conversate here...if someone is frustrated they would go to a therapist or someone..not come and post a message on a forum...This is a discussion...The reason y I posted this is to know the opinions of some armenians in our community because I am doing research about this...and there are some aspects that I need to know...Most of the aspects I didnt get answers on but some I did. I dont post stuff to argue my viewpoint...funny thing is my viewpint wasnt even on the post...i needed some opinions and answers...BTW for those of u that think just cuz i posted this means im promiscuous ...ur wrong...just because someone is talking about it and bringin up questions some of u dont agree with doesnt mean that he/she is promiscuous...u guys need to stop jumping to conclusions

Neways...Thank you guys for ur answers...more answers are welcome

[jgk3]

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rarechik, there's more to life than worrying about how much others think and go about their sex lives. You think guys have sex every day, and there are exceptions to this rule? What kind of thinking is that? Perhaps most guys might pursue sex every day, many of those days in vain.

But who cares, I enjoy life more by not pursuing it, except when I'm talking to someone who tells me they're interested in me and I feel the same about them.

As a consequence, I feel more relaxed and a lot of these sexual pressures you're feeling that you're taking out on "Armenian mentality" is not that important in my life. I also find that when young women dress casually, with a slightly conservative tone to it, not matter how pretty they may be, the eyes and stares of guys all around change accordingly and stop considering her so much as eye candy, but rather, a pretty face at best, and this in turn might affect the comfort level of the lady and help her think about better things than what kind of sexual thoughts are going on in her society, and sexual standards, etc.... Perhaps you should look into it if you haven't already.

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Armenian tribalism starts from the family structure that is the most sacrate entity. Parents have a specific behavioral knowledge in keeping the family structure united. Once all of the needs of the Armenian family is served comes the serving of the Armenian identity. Rarely the individual needs are served in this tribalistic structure. Comparing tribalistic newer migrant groups like Armenians, Joos, Koreans, Japanese to the pre melted pot of mostly Europeans and their behavior is the clash in question.... be it sex, or persuing of “happiness”. The pre melted pot of “Americans” have ONE interest in mind that is the happiness and success of the INDIVIDUAL itself, family and identity are almost none existent today. Armenians in the Diaspora will have to make the decision where they stand in this equation. Healthy groups that do survive like the Amish (example) have the same principals that are common all over the world. We don't need religion to teach us the obvious.

[Anonymouse]

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All this talk about sex is just missing the point.

If people want to go around and sleep with a bunch of people, girl or guy, then they expose themselves to all sorts of STDs out there.

Forget about HIV/AIDS, that isn't as taboo anymore, or genital warts. The initial doesn't kill with modern medicine (look at Magic Johnson) and the latter can be eradicated, but what about herpes? That's like luggage till the rest of your life and need I remind folks that 67 million people in America carry herpes? That's 1 in 4. So be promiscuous at your own risk.

[One-Way]

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Like I said, you seem mad that girls can't sleep around because they'll be judged as sluts; whereas it's okay for a guy.

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

my question and this post discusses all aspects...I am not stereotyping guys too much...like i said there r exceptions...but if u live in glendale NH, hollywood, surroundin areas(which u do) u no how it is...I dont know if u do...depending on ur age and experince socializing with older ppl (in 20s or late teens)....How are armenian girls worse?
Would u be okay with the fact that ur son will have the mentality that he can sleep with whoever he wants but an armenian girl HAS to b a virgin or that ur daughter is gna be afraid to talk abot sex or expereince it if shes ina long term relationship?

[One-Way]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Half Armenian, yeah, might as well mention she considers herself Turkish. Fact is her father was a very notable Armenian lawyer and her last name is Armenian. That alone puts down anything an Armenian is worth for.

You're stereotyping guys way too much; whether Armenian guys do wait or not, you're generalizing. From what I have seen and I know many who will agree with me; Armenian girls are far worse than Armenian guys.

Basically, you're not asking about Armenians and sex -- what you're asking is why can a guy have sex and be considered "cool" but when a girl does it, she's a slut.

[RareChik]

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Firstly, I know many men who are willing to wait.

Second, if a man doesn't respect the woman waiting for marriage or vice versa, that relationship is off to a bad start.

I think our generation of Armenians are in the process of throwing down everything Armenians have built over the years. Need I bring up Kim Kardashian? What kind of example does she set for future Armenian sluts that may follow?

That would be great if every armenian couple waited...but the reality is not that...reality is that most guys go xxxx girls everyday(there are exceptions)....and sex is somethin natural...If every Armenian guy and girl waited til marriage then that would be awsome...I have no problem with that...and the ones that didnt then thats their business...but the fact is that the GUYS dont wait...What I bring up as the issue is that the girl cant but the guy can ...and thats accepted in our culture...Either the guys need to stop xxxxin everyone or the "need to be virgin or else ur a xxxxx" lable needs to be put off

oh and I cant say nethin about Kim...cuz thats her choice to put her xxxx out there and date a black guy...and she's only half armenian. there are always exceptions...and I dont think that sex education and teaching ppl about emotional consequences and values, and not telling women that unless ur a virgin then ur a xxxxx is gna turn them into xxxxxs

[One-Way]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

what i mean is that when the girls think that it's something so horrible, and that's embedded in their mind, later on in life even if they are married, they don't enjoy sex or in a relationship(not married), they don't openly talk about it with their partners because theyre embarrassed. Also, you don't see armenian guys wait until marriage but it's mandatory for the girl to wait. There's conflict there because if ur in a relationship for a long time then it's unnatural to not have sex for years, especially if the guy is not a virgin, i dont think hes gna wanna wait that long. Here comes the problem where they go and cheat in the relationship. And wat do you mean wen you say they make horrible decisions and regret it? Also, if youve been in a long term relationship and have no plans to get married soon then its hard not to have sex...and this creates another problem of armenian couples rushing into marriage for sex

Firstly, I know many men who are willing to wait.

Second, if a man doesn't respect the woman waiting for marriage or vice versa, that relationship is off to a bad start.

I think our generation of Armenians are in the process of throwing down everything Armenians have built over the years. Need I bring up Kim Kardashian? What kind of example does she set for future Armenian sluts that may follow?