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Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

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  • RareChik
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by One-Way View Post
    It's no problem but I would imagine you'd be questioning Sip since not a lot of guys agree with him. I mean, it's interesting why you'd ask me more questions when Sip gave the rare answer. Just a thought.

    because im concentrating more on opinions like urs more...ppl who r more conservative about sex...which u seem to be...(im not sayin it in an offensive way)...if im wrong ..let me know...oh an it'd be great if i got ur age also...and ur are male right?

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  • One-Way
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    It's no problem but I would imagine you'd be questioning Sip since not a lot of guys agree with him. I mean, it's interesting why you'd ask me more questions when Sip gave the rare answer. Just a thought.

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  • RareChik
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by One-Way View Post
    I do think it's wrong for guys to think of her as a slut. Should I change their mindsets too? Sorry.



    No offense but here I am answering every "what if" question of yours and Sip comes along as says what he did and you praise him with a "wow!" I'm getting the feeling you're taking me for a ride trying to get me into a corner where I can change my beliefs whereas Sip is okay because you two think alike.

    By the way, I agree with Sip with his last paragraph. I think sex is overrated but then again, 99% of everything in life is. Unfortunently, everything is over dramatized in the media and we're foreced to believe if we're not having sex, we're losers.
    Like I said this is for research. I'm not praising him. It was surprising to me that an Armenian guy would say that. That's y I said that. I'm sorry if u think that im praising him, cuz im not.

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  • One-Way
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by RareChik View Post
    well wat if that girl doesnt regret nething she didd...shes perfectly fine with it . u think it's wrong for guys to think of her as a xxxx just cuz she's not a virgin?
    I do think it's wrong for guys to think of her as a slut. Should I change their mindsets too? Sorry.

    Originally posted by RareChik View Post
    wow! I havent heard this from a lot of ppl or any for that matter. I'm surprised. Not a lot of ppl think this way(especially armenian).
    No offense but here I am answering every "what if" question of yours and Sip comes along as says what he did and you praise him with a "wow!" I'm getting the feeling you're taking me for a ride trying to get me into a corner where I can change my beliefs whereas Sip is okay because you two think alike.

    By the way, I agree with Sip with his last paragraph. I think sex is overrated but then again, 99% of everything in life is. Unfortunently, everything is over dramatized in the media and we're foreced to believe if we're not having sex, we're losers.

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  • RareChik
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by Sip View Post
    When will the girls get to choose? The times when the girl has to sit at home and be pure and wait for a guy to approve of her is over. If you are a girl, take charge of your life, do whatever you want to do, and don't be too worried about the approval/disapproval of some guy with "tradditional" issues which in this day and age don't really mean anything.

    Also, sex is waaaaaaaay overblown and too dramatized. It's really not that big a deal anymore. If you haven't lived under a rock, aren't doing STUPID things to impair your rational judgement (like drink heavily and do drugs), then the physical risks from sex can be very minimal. The emotional risks are also something you'll learn to live with but the best way is to live rather than to wait in fear of "what if".

    wow! I havent heard this from a lot of ppl or any for that matter. I'm surprised. Not a lot of ppl think this way(especially armenian).

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  • RareChik
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by One-Way View Post
    I can agree with most of what you said in your last paragraph. More importantly, I can understand what you mean entirely. But yes, in my opinion, if two people are in a relationship and claim they are in love, they should work together to keep that relationship moving forward. Therefore, if one person wants to have sex and the other doesn't, as you said, that person is more likely to cheat. That in itself proves that person didn't love ther other.





    Look, I don't believe in the "I thought he was the right one but now I realized I was wrong" mentality, okay? Mainly because if you want to have sex, you should know for sure if that person is who you think they are. People will disagree and say you can never know for sure, I think it's possible. I've known my girlfriend for a little over a year and in a month, I think we both had each other figured out to the last drop. If you want to have sex with someone, you better be sure or else don't bring up that excuse because it's your fault.
    well wat if that girl doesnt regret nething she didd...shes perfectly fine with it . u think it's wrong for guys to think of her as a xxxx just cuz she's not a virgin?

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  • Sip
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    When will the girls get to choose? The times when the girl has to sit at home and be pure and wait for a guy to approve of her is over. If you are a girl, take charge of your life, do whatever you want to do, and don't be too worried about the approval/disapproval of some guy with "tradditional" issues which in this day and age don't really mean anything.

    Also, sex is waaaaaaaay overblown and too dramatized. It's really not that big a deal anymore. If you haven't lived under a rock, aren't doing STUPID things to impair your rational judgement (like drink heavily and do drugs), then the physical risks from sex can be very minimal. The emotional risks are also something you'll learn to live with but the best way is to live rather than to wait in fear of "what if".
    Last edited by Sip; 06-19-2008, 05:46 PM.

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  • ddd
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    My thoughts: If all things being equal between two girls; one being a virgin and one not, I'm going to choose the virgin.

    And this mentality is shared by at least 90% of the Armenian guys, and by at least 80% of guys in general. Whether you like it or not, that's life, and you have to learn to deal with it. Of course, there are never situations where everything between two girls are equal, so the issue then becomes how much value a guy puts in the girl being a virgin, and that's a personal choice. Girls don't put as much value in a guy being a virgin so most guys don't feel the pressure to stay a virgin. In fact, some girls would wonder what’s wrong with the guy.

    It's all a matter of preference, just like some girls prefer tall guys, some prefer doctors, some prefer bums. But unlike genetics, a girl can choose to be a virgin, just like a guy can choose to work hard, go to med school and be a doctor. The choices you make have both positives and negatives, so you personally will need to weigh your options and make the decision yourself. If you want to end up with a nice, decent, well educated, strong moral values, all the good stuff Armenian guy, you'll probably want to have all the factors that you control (non-genetic) in your favor including being a virgin.

    Again, no one’s forcing Armenian girls to stay virgins (although the parents may try to, only because they want the cream of the crop for their daughter), but the girls shouldn’t get angry at “old” traditions, etc when the good looking big shot multimillionaire lawyer or business owner or whatever chooses another girl simply because she’s as good as them, except a virgin.

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  • One-Way
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    Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
    One-way as much as I respect you for voicing your opinion, I am just going to have to disagree on this.

    Well this just sounds absurd. If one person suggests something then the other person should "do it" no matter what, because of "true love"? There is no "true love." It's just a continuing process between people that we all have and can grow in and out of and with many different combinations of people. It is "practical politics." I am not denying love, I am denying it any of the heavenly and imaginary and idealistic dimensions we ascribe it, raising it on a pedestal. We are all capable of selfless (which many would equate to love) and selfishness (which many would equate as the antithesis).

    I don't think in the real world - the practical world - "love" exists in the same idealistic realm as you have ascribed it. There is no "true love." In love there is no equality. One person puckers up to kiss, and one person always braces for the kiss. In other words, there is a power dynamic. So, if one person wants to have sex, they are more likely to cheat and/or get it somewhere else. The reason for this is because many people do not know themselves well enough, or well at all, to know what they are capable of - their potentials and limitations. And because many people tend to be more selfish and seek the self-gratification of their prurient interests, they are more likely to chart on this course as opposed to waiting. I am not speaking about everyone (obviously), but that is the way it goes in the real world of practical politics and human animality for most of the people who do not possess self-knowledge, and are not capable of introspection.
    I can agree with most of what you said in your last paragraph. More importantly, I can understand what you mean entirely. But yes, in my opinion, if two people are in a relationship and claim they are in love, they should work together to keep that relationship moving forward. Therefore, if one person wants to have sex and the other doesn't, as you said, that person is more likely to cheat. That in itself proves that person didn't love ther other.

    Originally posted by RareChik View Post
    So, would u say that a girl made a mistake or is a xxxx if she does have sex with her bf and at that time she thinks that he's the right one and no doubt in her mind...but a year later for some reason...doesnt really matter...they break up...

    In my opinion, unfortunently, her way of thinking is right. Not necessarily healthy, but it's right, for the following reason:

    do u think that this way of thinking should change in our community? y or y not (i mean since it's not healthy)?
    Look, I don't believe in the "I thought he was the right one but now I realized I was wrong" mentality, okay? Mainly because if you want to have sex, you should know for sure if that person is who you think they are. People will disagree and say you can never know for sure, I think it's possible. I've known my girlfriend for a little over a year and in a month, I think we both had each other figured out to the last drop. If you want to have sex with someone, you better be sure or else don't bring up that excuse because it's your fault.

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  • Anonymouse
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    This taps into a very interesting question. At what point does someone become a "slut"?
    Last edited by Anonymouse; 06-19-2008, 12:02 PM.

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