Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You are mumbling too many ideas. I understand your frustrations of the traditional what is to be accepted as an Armenian behavior. I keep telling you it is PART of a package that can not be excluded to please your age group. You make it sound that the group that is not bound to these "Armenian" conditions are more successful in love, marriage and family structures. I am telling you ... they are NOT. It is destructive.

And the armenians that are bound to these conditions do...basically ur damned if u do and damned if u dont....u think that armenians should stay in their "conditions" because there is no solution? lol...y dont ppl start not going to this extreme or the other and start finding somethin in the middle which is wat my idea is about instead of u saying that ppl are not happy either way...and all u can say is that im mumbling because u dont have an answer for those questions.

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

...im just wonderin how old u are if u dont mindme askin?

Don't ask it again ... I am not telling you. Irrelevant, unless you are trying to discredit me cause of my age.

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Wrong. It all comes to our biological evolution.... "sperm competition selective pressures on reproductive biology and behavior"
http://dannyreviews.com/h/Promiscuity.html

thats PURE crap...so the guys that dont mind having a non-virgin contradict this theory...LMFAO...im just wonderin how old u are if u dont mindme askin?

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

What would you say about the couples that rush into marriage just for sex because they no that its not accepted? or the ones that get a divorce because of their sex life or because the girl doesnt like to do it and cant enjoy herself? What do u say about the fact that many armenians that are in "serious" relationships cheat because the girls are afraid to give it up and im talking about long term relationships? I don't think that sex should be as open as it is in the media. I completely disagree with it, but I do think that the idea of sex, what it is, the emotional consequences, and the values that should be attached to it should be thought. Also in our community this rule of virginity is only put on girls. Do you think that's right that a guy can xxxx 100 girls and hes not a "xxxxx" but a girl sleeps with one and she was in a long term relationship or even if she wasnt and shes a xxxxx?

You are mumbling too many ideas. I understand your frustrations of the traditional what is to be accepted as an Armenian behavior. I keep telling you it is PART of a package that can not be excluded to please your age group. You make it sound that the group that is not bound to these "Armenian" conditions are more successful in love, marriage and family structures. I am telling you ... they are NOT. It is destructive.

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Well there could be many reasons, here are some I've heard from friends:
- the idea of having a women for the first time; they want to be the "teacher" to the "student"
- the idea that virgins are pure and innocent
- virgins are "tighter"
- no diseases....
- they are more loyal???????
- the man is also a virgin and wants to share the experience
- etc...

Wrong. It all comes to our biological evolution.... "sperm competition selective pressures on reproductive biology and behavior"

http://dannyreviews.com/h/Promiscuity.html

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The issue that you are disoriented with is NOT about sex. It is about dating openly and having partners before marriage and be accepted by your parents and the Armenian community in general. The sex part you can get it with or without the consent or knowledge of the people that you don’t want to disappoint. My question to you will be ... how much of the none traditional Armenian values are YOU ready to accept? Why tackle the concept of only sexuality pre marriage and not the very trendy single parent society that is fashionable these days? Will you have a problem with your mother go to the bars with her girlfriends once a week? What if your dad likes to visit Vegas once a month and the “what goes in vegas stays there”. How much are you ready to flex to what the latest media trend is shaping the family structures in the West? You are not the only age group that is under pressure, you should accept the pressure and the needs of your parents to...they don’t need to sacrifice for you either. You should ask those questions first before you banal sex question.

What would you say about the couples that rush into marriage just for sex because they no that its not accepted? or the ones that get a divorce because of their sex life or because the girl doesnt like to do it and cant enjoy herself? What do u say about the fact that many armenians that are in "serious" relationships cheat because the girls are afraid to give it up and im talking about long term relationships? I don't think that sex should be as open as it is in the media. I completely disagree with it, but I do think that the idea of sex, what it is, the emotional consequences, and the values that should be attached to it should be thought. Also in our community this rule of virginity is only put on girls. Do you think that's right that a guy can xxxx 100 girls and hes not a "xxxxx" but a girl sleeps with one and she was in a long term relationship or even if she wasnt and shes a xxxxx?

[LadySilver]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Why do you think that most of the young men in our community don't change their minds about it or are not more open to it?

Well there could be many reasons, here are some I've heard from friends:
- the idea of having a women for the first time; they want to be the "teacher" to the "student"
- the idea that virgins are pure and innocent
- virgins are "tighter"
- no diseases....
- they are more loyal???????
- the man is also a virgin and wants to share the experience
- etc...

I respect the fact that one may choose to wait but I don't think it's something that should be forced upon them. Also, I dislike the double standard that men can be with however many women they want but once a woman has been with a few men she is a "$lut", etc.
I wonder, if a woman was raped, would she still seem "unpure" for some men? I would suppose so...
Some men also believe that they are expected to be more experienced than women and that they are the ones who are supposed to "share" their experience with women.

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The issue that you are disoriented with is NOT about sex. It is about dating openly and having partners before marriage and be accepted by your parents and the Armenian community in general. The sex part you can get it with or without the consent or knowledge of the people that you don’t want to disappoint. My question to you will be ... how much of the none traditional Armenian values are YOU ready to accept? Why tackle the concept of only sexuality pre marriage and not the very trendy single parent society that is fashionable these days? Will you have a problem with your mother go to the bars with her girlfriends once a week? What if your dad likes to visit Vegas once a month and the “what goes in vegas stays there”. How much are you ready to flex to what the latest media trend is shaping the family structures in the West? You are not the only age group that is under pressure, you should accept the pressure and the needs of your parents to...they don’t need to sacrifice for you either. You should ask those questions first before you banal sex question.

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

issues? lol...I have no issues with it personally but our community does...ppl like u in our community... I'm talking about it because I don't have that mentality...If u read my first post u wouldnt say let's see whos more sexually liberated?...And ur right u don't have to ask ur parents premission for it because it's a private expereince...but u dont get the point of how armenian parents raise their children with the mentality that sex is horrible and that they cant talk about it see it or think about it till theyre married...And dont think that ppl like me who talk about it are "liberal" about sex as you put ina negative connotation So ur telling me that ppl shouldnt be liberal about sex...ok...so y dont u wait to have sex until ur married because it's a rule that armenian culture has?

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Ok people you want to be liberal with sexuality? let us see who is more liberal.
First I am having hard time comprehending your mentalities of wanting to be sexually liberated and yet you need to ask a parent. WHY? Go get fuucked do what pleases you. Why do you need approval? you are over 18. What are you suppose to say to your parents? you like this ONE guy and if it is ok to have sex? How about the guy next month? What if you enjoy group sex? Why would you have to limit yourself to one partner? Do what pleases you ... just don't sell yourself as a virgin at the end of the day. No one cares. Unless if you have issues and it seams you do.