Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Anonymouse]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The issue that you are disoriented with is NOT about sex. It is about dating openly and having partners before marriage and be accepted by your parents and the Armenian community in general. The sex part you can get it with or without the consent or knowledge of the people that you don’t want to disappoint. My question to you will be ... how much of the none traditional Armenian values are YOU ready to accept? Why tackle the concept of only sexuality pre marriage and not the very trendy single parent society that is fashionable these days? Will you have a problem with your mother go to the bars with her girlfriends once a week? What if your dad likes to visit Vegas once a month and the “what goes in vegas stays there”. How much are you ready to flex to what the latest media trend is shaping the family structures in the West? You are not the only age group that is under pressure, you should accept the pressure and the needs of your parents to...they don’t need to sacrifice for you either. You should ask those questions first before you banal sex question.

[RareChik]

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Does everyone always have to insult each other? Is it possible to talk to one another without getting into an argument.

I'm not even going to respond to azad's comment because he's probably not even mature enough to be talking about this. I guess he doesn't know what a conversation is. I'm not going to stoop down to his level and insult him.

[Sip]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I don't usually go on forums or anything cuz i don't have time, but now I do so I wanna bring up some issues in our community.

There are many armenians that are freaked out about sex. what i mean by this is that especially girls are taught from young age that this is something bad and horrible. what parents don't realize is that this affects females psychologically and causes many problems in their life later on. I think that the num 1 reason y there are so many unhappy armenian couples is because of sex issues. im not saying that armenians should be xxxxs like others but they should have an open mind and an education about sex. It seems like armenian guys are on the wagon with the rest of the world with the knowledge and experience of sex but the girls shut out of that world. opinions?

I completely agree. A lot of the "traditional" views on sex is that hey, you have to go buy a car without getting to test drive it and also without ever having driven anything before in your life and on top of that, you are stuck with that car until the rest of your life

... but the car is "pure" when you do get it.

[Anonymouse]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I think what you speak of are outdated traditions. This was paramount with older generation, for "times they are a-changin." We live a contemporary and open society with new perspectives and different values. If anything, it seems like it hit the other extreme. Now everyone openly talks about sex with their friends and therapists, has sex left and right and goes on talk shows. I don't live in a concentrated Armenian community, but from what I hear many young Armenians have abandoned that foolish "ideology."

I think this somewhat captures the essence of things.

Traditionally, Armenian society has been very much influenced (aside from the Christian religion) by the surrounding Muslim marauders and their very repressive lifestyle that comes with Islam. So over centuries these repressive notions have permeated Armenian consciousness and have festered until now they are exposed to the so-called "Western world" with its so-called ideals of "sexual liberation."

I think that all Armenian parents should be open about sexuality with their children because I think far too often there is a certain pervasive rigidity about sexuality that has pervaded among our community. With that being said, do not be fooled that more Armenians are "open to sex" because they happen to be in America. The fact that you see girls dressed like sluts or whores or guys and girls engaging in endless promiscuous sex and spreading STDs does not mean they are embracing a sort of sexual openness. They are embracing a sexual perversion and fanaticism, not openness, or what is properly referred to as nymphomania and satyriasis.

I really like how Foucault tangled this topic in "A History of Sexuality." He effectively demolished the modern myth of the liberation of sexuality from the shackles of victorian repression. He rightly points out that far from being silent about sex, modern man cannot shut up about it, and only in our culture are therapists handsomely paid to listen to people talk about their sex lives. He states, "What is peculiar to modern societies, in fact, is not that they consigned sex to a shadow existence, but that they dedicated themselves to speaking of it ad infinitum, while exploiting it as the secret."

[LadySilver]

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Does everyone always have to insult each other? Is it possible to talk to one another without getting into an argument.

[Azad]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

fyi...my parents didnt just migrate to the US...theyve ben here for a very long time...another point of mine that u just concentrate on retarded stuff and ur the one thats MUMBLING instead of acutally talking about the issue...u havent actually responded to any of the questions posed onthe forum....all uve been doing MUMBLING...so i need some other opinions if u dont mind cuz urs is just irrelevant

You are correct ... you do need to get laid.

[RareChik]

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Still mumbling. It is apparent that you are the product of parents that just migrated to the "West". Unfortunately couple more generations just like our original Armenian Americans your offsprings will not face these issues. Your present problem is not an Armenian issue it is a new arrival issue.

fyi...my parents didnt just migrate to the US...theyve ben here for a very long time...another point of mine that u just concentrate on retarded stuff and ur the one thats MUMBLING instead of acutally talking about the issue...u havent actually responded to any of the questions posed onthe forum....all uve been doing MUMBLING...so i need some other opinions if u dont mind cuz urs is just irrelevant

[Azad]

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"so the guys that dont mind having a non-virgin contradict this theory" no answer...

We are not in some physiology class. There are millions of factors that determines and effect individuals specifically in who wants what and how.

[Azad]

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And the armenians that are bound to these conditions do...basically ur damned if u do and damned if u dont....u think that armenians should stay in their "conditions" because there is no solution? lol...y dont ppl start not going to this extreme or the other and start finding somethin in the middle which is wat my idea is about instead of u saying that ppl are not happy either way...and all u can say is that im mumbling because u dont have an answer for those questions.

Still mumbling. It is apparent that you are the product of parents that just migrated to the "West". Unfortunately couple more generations just like our original Armenian Americans your offsprings will not face these issues. Your present problem is not an Armenian issue it is a new arrival issue.

[RareChik]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Don't ask it again ... I am not telling you. Irrelevant, unless you are trying to discredit me cause of my age.

Age does have a lot to do with ur answers. and also like i said u just dodge the questions cuz u have no answers. I asked "so the guys that dont mind having a non-virgin contradict this theory" no answer...