Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[ara87]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I don't usually go on forums or anything cuz i don't have time, but now I do so I wanna bring up some issues in our community.

There are many armenians that are freaked out about sex. what i mean by this is that especially girls are taught from young age that this is something bad and horrible. what parents don't realize is that this affects females psychologically and causes many problems in their life later on. I think that the num 1 reason y there are so many unhappy armenian couples is because of sex issues. im not saying that armenians should be xxxxs like others but they should have an open mind and an education about sex. It seems like armenian guys are on the wagon with the rest of the world with the knowledge and experience of sex but the girls shut out of that world. opinions?

I understand what you mean. Most armenian guys here don't date armenian girls first unless it's like that middle school bs kind of dating, b/c some parents think dating makes their daughter a xxxxx. Than many other parents are worried about if their sons daughters get dumped or break up with someone at church, that rumors will fly. Many teens and young adults just end up dating odars to pass the time, till they get engaged to some armenian, usually an out of towner.

[Pazooki]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Can we just close this topic? It seems like it's starting to attack one another.

[One-Way]

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It's an argument because we're bringing up two points and making a debate; it's not a fight.

[RareChik]

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You're missing the whole point. Stop trying to pick dumb arguments. The whole idea behind a girl being a virgin is the mindset that goes along with it, which some virgin women lack (they take it up the ass, give head, and have been with many more guys than lets say a girl who has only been with 1 or 2 boyfriends and isn't a virgin).

In the end, it's all about securing a safe, long lasting marriage with normal kids, and lowering the chances of falling into the 50+% divorce rate statistics.

Also, women have much better orgasms, and generally enjoy sex MUCH more than men. So if a woman enjoys the little games guys play (common in women who have been with many men) to the point where she MAY cheat on her man at some time in her life she obviously won't be a good choice for a wife. And some of the more desirable guys are the ones who can afford to be more picky and get rid of a girl when they're ready to be serious, and think there may be a risk of cheating sometime in the future, or simply because she has been with one too many guys.

First of all this isnt an argument but a conversation...if u think it's an argument then I wont respond to u...second don't be rude "Stop trying to pick dumb arguments."...y can't u be a little be more respective and respond in a calm way like a mature person...and third of all I didn't understand what u meant by ur first comment...u dont have to be rude about clarifying it...y r some ppl so hostile on forums...god it's just a conversation

[Siamanto]

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You have not raised any question.

Are you telling me that you're unable to spot the question in:

In the Real World or reality?

P.S. In the Real World perceptions, gossip, rumors, calumny etc. matter most; reality is about facts.

I've asked for a simple discussion and clarification and all you do, as usual, is dance around in Siamanto fashion and provide more amusing witticisms.

And I've asked for a simple clarification, I see no need to make a fuss.

It seems impossible to discuss with you when

You were asked for a simple clarification, but made a huge fuss; yet, it's impossible to discuss with me????

all you do is engage in an esoteric discussion whereby we have to deduce and perceive and psychically attempt to deconstruct the possible simple meaning which may lie behind your overly symbolic posts.

Esoteric?????
As I said in my previous post:
"I did not know that distinguishing facts from perceptions, gossip, rumors, calumny was still considered as "esoteric" by some, and/or it may be necessary to "expand" on the necessity to do so - i.e. distinguish - when examining/judging a person??? Let's imagine a legal system where the Actors - i.e. prosecutors, judges, lawyers etc. - fail to do so - i.e. distinguish; the idea scares me. How about a Human Community?"

Seriously, settle down, you are not Foucault or Nietzsche or some such philosopher where you have to speak in tongues and codes for us laymen to decipher you.

Should there be an authority that decides how and in what terms a person should approach and analyze a subject matter?
I'm sorry if it seems too complicated for you to "decipher" the simple question that I've raised, but I don't see legitimate reasons to unreasonably oversimplify my views.

[ddd]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

So if the girl loses her virginity loses her self respect? but guys lose their virginity and they don't lose their self respect? u think this is logical?

if so wat do u base it on? if a girl(random) loves sex more than a guy(random) then why shouldnt she experience it...is it cuz she's not a male or in ur mind females are not suppose to be sexually active till theyre married?

You're missing the whole point. Stop trying to pick dumb arguments. The whole idea behind a girl being a virgin is the mindset that goes along with it, which some virgin women lack (they take it up the ass, give head, and have been with many more guys than lets say a girl who has only been with 1 or 2 boyfriends and isn't a virgin).

In the end, it's all about securing a safe, long lasting marriage with normal kids, and lowering the chances of falling into the 50+% divorce rate statistics.

Also, women have much better orgasms, and generally enjoy sex MUCH more than men. So if a woman enjoys the little games guys play (common in women who have been with many men) to the point where she MAY cheat on her man at some time in her life she obviously won't be a good choice for a wife. And some of the more desirable guys are the ones who can afford to be more picky and get rid of a girl when they're ready to be serious, and think there may be a risk of cheating sometime in the future, or simply because she has been with one too many guys.

[RareChik]

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By old tradition, I implied women staying conserved, respecting themselves, remaining virgins, etc; not necessarily that their parents got to choose the man.

And the girls that are able to do this have that many more men to choose from.

So if the girl loses her virginity loses her self respect? but guys lose their virginity and they don't lose their self respect? u think this is logical?

if so wat do u base it on? if a girl(random) loves sex more than a guy(random) then why shouldnt she experience it...is it cuz she's not a male or in ur mind females are not suppose to be sexually active till theyre married?

[ddd]

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Men that tend to insist the "traditional" ways must be preserved are often very insecure (and more often than not, rightly so) in that (1), the girl may end up not choosing them if she actually had the power to choose, and (2) they would not measure up to the girl's past experiences.

By old tradition, I implied women staying conserved, respecting themselves, remaining virgins, etc; not necessarily that their parents got to choose the man.

And the girls that are able to do this have that many more men to choose from.

[Anonymouse]

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I did not know that distinguishing facts from perceptions, gossip, rumors, calumny was still considered as "esoteric" by some, and/or it may be necessary to "expand" on the necessity to do so - i.e. distinguish - when examining/judging a person??? Let's imagine a legal system where the Actors - i.e. prosecutors, judges, lawyers etc. - fail to do so - i.e. distinguish; the idea scares me. How about a Human Community?


What bases?
In any case, a definition - whether correct or not - does not address the question that I've raised.

You have not raised any question. I've asked for a simple discussion and clarification and all you do, as usual, is dance around in Siamanto fashion and provide more amusing witticisms. It seems impossible to discuss with you when all you do is engage in an esoteric discussion whereby we have to deduce and perceive and psychically attempt to deconstruct the possible simple meaning which may lie behind your overly symbolic posts. Seriously, settle down, you are not Foucault or Nietzsche or some such philosopher where you have to speak in tongues and codes for us laymen to decipher you.

[Siamanto]

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In the Real World or reality?


P.S. In the Real World perceptions, gossip, rumors, calumny etc. matter most; reality is about facts.

Can you expand on that a little bit? I don't do the whole esoteric thing where I get to psychically guess what Siamanto is trying allude to.

I did not know that distinguishing facts from perceptions, gossip, rumors, calumny was still considered as "esoteric" by some, and/or it may be necessary to "expand" on the necessity to do so - i.e. distinguish - when examining/judging a person??? Let's imagine a legal system where the Actors - i.e. prosecutors, judges, lawyers etc. - fail to do so - i.e. distinguish; the idea scares me. How about a Human Community?

But just to cover both bases, usually this word is pejorative and refers to women who are promiscuous. But I think this label applies to men just as well and I think it was Chaucer that used it first in the context of "xxxxtish" to refer to a male, although I could be mistaken.

What bases?
In any case, a definition - whether correct or not - does not address the question that I've raised.