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Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

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  • Siggie
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    Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

    Originally posted by levon View Post
    A virgin is less likely to do all of the above. While virginity is not a guarantee, it is a much better indicator of faithfulness. A virgin saves herself for her husband, whereas a woman who isn't is essentially selling herself to the highest bidder.
    If it's not seen as much of an option if one wants to get married (as I would assume, you'd like it to be become?) doesn't it lose its predictive power? Assuming, of course, that there's a relationship between the two. E.g. If most women will wait because it's expected of them, then whether they waited or not (not enough variability) loses its usefulness at predicting who will be faithful.

    I wonder whether women who wed as virgins later feel doubt in assessing their sexual satisfaction. Will she wonder if it could be better? I would think it would be more of an issue with the women who aren't enjoying sex with their husbands. Will they wonder if it's their husbands? I think open dialogue about sex between the couple would help, but to the extent that one partner doesn't feel like they could even bring up the topic with their spouse, would they be more likely to stray, just to see if it could be improved?
    My apologies for this not being well formulated, but I hope you all understand what I'm saying.
    I don't have an opinion either way... just thought it's an interesting question that might be worth considering.

    Also, I don't think it's so black and white. There's a big difference between a woman with 20 partners and one with 1 or 2 previous partners no? Is it fair to say that the woman who had a long term relationship and had sex with that partner prior is a promiscuous or "selling herself to the highest bidder"?

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  • levon
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    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    People suck! There are men who are terrible human beings and there are women who are terrible human beings. You're hearing the story from your male friends and we're not naive enough to think we tell stories without trying to cast ourselves in more positive light. I think the women have different stories about why their marriages failed and I wouldn't believe them either. The truth probably lies somewhere between.
    A virgin prior to marriage could do what you described as well. I would take this more as a lesson to choose our partners carefully.
    True, but nobody listens to a man's lies, a man can hardly take a woman to the cleaners, man are much more likely to be prosecuted for delinquent child support payments, and finally, nobody will jail a woman just because her husband claims she forced him to have sex with her.

    A virgin is less likely to do all of the above. While virginity is not a guarantee, it is a much better indicator of faithfulness. A virgin saves herself for her husband, whereas a woman who isn't is essentially selling herself to the highest bidder.

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  • Siggie
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    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Right.... keep telling yourself that while some of my friends are recovering from divorce because their great and respectful wives took them to the cleaners while shacking up with losers while their hubbies were busy making money. Of course their complaints were "you're always working and I have needs" but I'll take your money and screw who ever I want. LOL.
    People suck! There are men who are terrible human beings and there are women who are terrible human beings. You're hearing the story from your male friends and we're not naive enough to think we tell stories without trying to cast ourselves in more positive light. I think the women have different stories about why their marriages failed and I wouldn't believe them either. The truth probably lies somewhere between.
    A virgin prior to marriage could do what you described as well. I would take this more as a lesson to choose our partners carefully.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    This premis that premarital sex for a women means that she is a xxxxx is and idiotic assumtion. Having sex does not make you goood or bad. You can have sex with multiple partners and still be a great person (man or woman). Having sex should not be looked upon as disrespecting ones self because it is very much a part of being a human being. Women do not get marries at 14 years of age anymore like they did in the past thus many of the morals relating to premerital sex are out of context and irrelivent today. Depriving yourself and others from one of the things that makes life worth living seems like a stupid idea to me especialy when it can be done in a safe and healthy manner.
    Right.... keep telling yourself that while some of my friends are recovering from divorce because their great and respectful wives took them to the cleaners while shacking up with losers while their hubbies were busy making money. Of course their complaints were "you're always working and I have needs" but I'll take your money and screw who ever I want. LOL.

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  • UrMistake
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    I am with Haykakan and Siggie ...., KanadaHye you should calm down man !!

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  • Haykakan
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    This premis that premarital sex for a women means that she is a xxxxx is and idiotic assumtion. Having sex does not make you goood or bad. You can have sex with multiple partners and still be a great person (man or woman). Having sex should not be looked upon as disrespecting ones self because it is very much a part of being a human being. Women do not get marries at 14 years of age anymore like they did in the past thus many of the morals relating to premerital sex are out of context and irrelivent today. Depriving yourself and others from one of the things that makes life worth living seems like a stupid idea to me especialy when it can be done in a safe and healthy manner.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by gootik View Post
    I agree with you...Armenian women are afraid of sex, thinking its a horrible things to do before marriage even if they are married they are afraid to explore and express their sexual desires thinking there is smething perverted about being sexual.
    How many Armenian women have you had sexual encounters with? Considering Armenian men work hard to give their wives and family a better life, they must be doing something right.

    Originally posted by gootik View Post
    The problem is Armenians need to understand that women are humans, we have sexual needs too, in fact I dont like to marry a guy who's been with many women when i have not been with one man! if im a virgin he should be a virgin too lol not fair at all.
    The problem is you seem to be hung up on childish arguments. People pick who they find suitable for marriage for whatever reasons they might have. Some men find promiscuous women attractive and others don't. That's why people get to make choices in life.

    Originally posted by gootik View Post
    I think this old thinking that our "Armenian" children should be born out of "good" women is very ancient and needs to be revised!
    Prostitution is ancient. It's been revised many times but seems to keep making a comeback.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by levon View Post
    "good", intelligent, smart woman who slept with idiots is an oxymoron.
    But she cooks very good dolma.... and she'll be loyal just like 80% of my odar friends' ex. wives who kept sleeping with idiots even after marriage.

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  • Siggie
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    Please be respectful of others.

    Originally posted by Siggie

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    You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
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    ...

    4] Behave as you would in a public location.

    This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

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  • levon
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    Originally posted by gootik View Post
    I agree with you...Armenian women are afraid of sex, thinking its a horrible things to do before marriage even if they are married they are afraid to explore and express their sexual desires thinking there is smething perverted about being sexual. The problem is Armenians need to understand that women are humans, we have sexual needs too, in fact I dont like to marry a guy who's been with many women when i have not been with one man! if im a virgin he should be a virgin too lol not fair at all. I think this old thinking that our "Armenian" children should be born out of "good" women is very ancient and needs to be revised!...a woman who has had sex can be "good", intelligent, smart, who cooks very good dolma and will be loyal to her future husband whom she knows is the only one that makes her happy, not the idiots she slept with. nice topic
    "good", intelligent, smart woman who slept with idiots is an oxymoron.

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