Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Lucin]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Where did he say that? If you don't understand that he's saying that we don't do that with CARS and we're not even purchasing a car for life, so why would we do this with choosing a spouse, then you're really just being deliberately obtuse.

His statement can perfectly be interpreted that way too. That's language. However, if we take into consideration what he 'means', we can assume that 'testing a car' and 'testing a woman sexually' are put on the same scale here. You 'test' it/her, you like it/her you keep it/her, you don't like it/her, you put it away (dump it/her). His sole criterion is based on one's sexual performance. While sex is quite important to maintain a healthy, emotionally balanced life, the relationship cannot be resumed to that. What's more, sex can/is definitely improving only over time, practice and communication.

I hope Levon would be unbanned to respond to Sip's comments, the two represent the very opposite sides (regarding this issue) and it's interesting.

I completely agree. A lot of the "traditional" views on sex is that hey, you have to go buy a car without getting to test drive it and also without ever having driven anything before in your life and on top of that, you are stuck with that car until the rest of your life

[Sip]

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and by the time she reaches her "conclusions", nobody will be interested anymore.

Why not? I see many women in their 30s and 40s get divorced and in a very short time connect with someone new and actually end up much happier than they were before. Of course also sometimes they end up deciding to remain single. There are also those that continue making the same mistakes and picking the same types of wrong guys over and over.

I have to say though while I don't agree that "nobody will be interested", I do think that people need to sometimes be more realistic about their mates. Most of the unhappinesses I think comes from unreasonable expectations from each other. People tend to want to find some idealized mates where in reality they may not even exist ... or if they exist, they may not be accessible (or available).

Its just that things have changed and are changing ... people have a lot more options and are much less "stuck" in certain ways. So the key to be happy in this day and age is to just be happy with what you got sometimes and not to want too much of everything else. I am not talking about settling but more about just being more content.

[KanadaHye]

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I actually think the reason many "traditional" men are so worried about the woman having had experiences before them has a lot more to do with their own insecurities and less to do with the woman having been rejected. If a woman hasn't been with another man before, the first guy is literally the best (or the worst ) she has ever been with. But as soon as there are other men in the past, these guys get all self conscious and get worried that they won't measure up ... so to say.

It is also about control and power. If you are the first guy you can always make it seem like every other guy is going to be so much worse to her and she, not having any frame of reference, might end up believing. But if she has been with other men before, she can form her own conclusions more accurately.

That's B.S. If they don't measure up then it's not like she can go back to the first, all she can do is keep rejecting because it wasn't as good as she remembers when she and her partner(s) were younger. Eventually a woman's biological clock winds down and she has to "settle" on someone or she has to marry because she can't use her beauty to get by anymore. It all looks good in the movies but doesn't translate well in the real world.

[gkv]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

if she has been with other men before, she can form her own conclusions more accurately.

and by the time she reaches her "conclusions", nobody will be interested anymore.

[Siggie]

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So why do women have issues with men who test drive a different car every weekend? Or when they park one in the garage and take another one out on rainy days? As long as the dealership lets them, they'd be nuts to settle on one.

I don't have a problem with that. In the second example, I don't have an issue with that either, so long as he's honest about what he's doing.

I actually think the reason many "traditional" men are so worried about the woman having had experiences before them has a lot more to do with their own insecurities and less to do with the woman having been rejected. If a woman hasn't been with another man before, the first guy is literally the best (or the worst ) she has ever been with. But as soon as there are other men in the past, these guys get all self conscious and get worried that they won't measure up ... so to say.

It is also about control and power. If you are the first guy you can always make it seem like every other guy is going to be so much worse to her and she, not having any frame of reference, might end up believing. But if she has been with other men before, she can form her own conclusions more accurately.

Insightful. I think you're on to something.

Hey, I always use ... never abuse.

I'm actually really curious about offroading; it looks like a ton of fun. Always a roll cage right?
For women, maybe go with "enjoy...never abuse."

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What?! Speedboats too?! *turns green*

[Sip]

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So why do women have issues with men who test drive a different car every weekend? Or when they park one in the garage and take another one out on rainy days? As long as the dealership lets them, they'd be nuts to settle on one.

The main difference here is commitment. I would definitely love to be able to drive a different car every weekend. But the car that is going to treat you the best, not break down on you, not leave you hanging, and the one you will get to know very deep and personally and know every little noise, vibration, or response would be the one you commit yourself to fully.

[Sip]

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Read: Until I destroy them.

Hey, I always use ... never abuse.

[Sip]

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Let me add... while you're out test driving cars, your future purchase will have been driven and rejected numerous times by other renters so there must have been problems with it.

I actually think the reason many "traditional" men are so worried about the woman having had experiences before them has a lot more to do with their own insecurities and less to do with the woman having been rejected. If a woman hasn't been with another man before, the first guy is literally the best (or the worst ) she has ever been with. But as soon as there are other men in the past, these guys get all self conscious and get worried that they won't measure up ... so to say.

It is also about control and power. If you are the first guy you can always make it seem like every other guy is going to be so much worse to her and she, not having any frame of reference, might end up believing. But if she has been with other men before, she can form her own conclusions more accurately.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Where did he say that? If you don't understand that he's saying that we don't do that with CARS and we're not even purchasing a car for life, so why would we do this with choosing a spouse, then you're really just being deliberately obtuse.

So why do women have issues with men who test drive a different car every weekend? Or when they park one in the garage and take another one out on rainy days? As long as the dealership lets them, they'd be nuts to settle on one.

[Siggie]

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Yah that was not quite my point. I said even when you want to buy a car you test drive a few (I hope -- don't you?). But if you were to pick a car for life, it would be kind of stupid to do it without knowing anything about the car. It's a simplification to illustrate a point. Obviously marriage is far far far more serious than picking a car.

I think your meaning would be abundantly clear to anyone who wasn't looking for something to nit-pick over and misinterpret.

For the record, those who know me around here from long ago will already know this but I am quite passionate about my cars and I do literally pick them for life (until [they] completely fall apart or get totalled).

Read: Until I destroy them.