Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

No, that's called dating.

Of course... I should have specified "date exclusively"

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

No, that's called dating.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

If you mean affair, then say affair.

So, a couple of young adults date for a year or two and no one has any sex... you'd call that an affair?
You want to argue semantics instead of addressing the actual content. Tsk tsk.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You seem to be stuck on this hymen thing.... I'm not sure why. Chastity has nothing to do with a woman's hymen. It's about a belief and code of conduct that was common practice in traditional societies.

You claim that "your" model encourages less dishonesty but there is nothing dishonest about a woman who intentionally attempts to seduce a man who she knows is married. She knows what she is doing and it's up to the man to turn down the offer. Why do the men still get blamed? It's up to the women to take out the trash in their society. However, since the modern woman blames the man for a practice that she herself admits is acceptable then the man is really in a lose-lose situation.

I'm not stuck on anything. I've been trying to redirect you to the comments to which you never replied.

That may not be dishonest, but it is unethical. I don't think women on the whole, think this is acceptable in the least.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

It is OBVIOUS from the context that I was talking about romantic relationships. You have a "relationship" with everyone interact with otherwise... e.g. cashier, mailman, dentist, etc.
Still avoiding...

If you mean affair, then say affair.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

In a society with rigid "rules" for women only as you described, wouldn't lead to women doing this at the same rate as men.

But outside of this, yes, both sexes can be promiscuous. That's why it makes more sense to take a more case by case approach and look at the whole person instead of just making it "check this box if your hymen is intact."

This is a problematic way to tell a virgin anyway because not everyone has a hymen and not all hymens are broken with one instance of sex. So, there's a lovely error rate that will humiliate and break the heart of a girl who actually was a virgin and then claim another who wasn't was honorable.

What about my point that your sort of ideal society actually encourages more dishonesty?

You seem to be stuck on this hymen thing.... I'm not sure why. Chastity has nothing to do with a woman's hymen. It's about a belief and code of conduct that was common practice in traditional societies.

You claim that "your" model encourages less dishonesty but there is nothing dishonest about a woman who intentionally attempts to seduce a man who she knows is married. She knows what she is doing and it's up to the man to turn down the offer. Why do the men still get blamed? It's up to the women to take out the trash in their society. However, since the modern woman blames the man for a practice that she herself admits is acceptable then the man is really in a lose-lose situation.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Huh?

reˇlaˇtionˇship

1. The condition or fact of being related; connection or association.
2. Connection by blood or marriage; kinship.
3. A particular type of connection existing between people related to or having dealings with each other: has a close relationship with his siblings.
4. A romantic or sexual involvement. <---- This is an affair, not a "relationship"

It is OBVIOUS from the context that I was talking about romantic relationships. You have a "relationship" with everyone interact with otherwise... e.g. cashier, mailman, dentist, etc.
Still avoiding...

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Okay, twist things so you can avoid addressing my post. I also have a long-term "relationship" with my dentist, but I'm sure you knew that's not what I meant. Nice avoidance tactic.

Huh?

reˇlaˇtionˇship

1. The condition or fact of being related; connection or association.
2. Connection by blood or marriage; kinship.
3. A particular type of connection existing between people related to or having dealings with each other: has a close relationship with his siblings.
4. A romantic or sexual involvement. <---- This is an affair, not a "relationship"

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You have a long term relationship with your parents and I'm pretty sure you didn't sleep with either of them..... there are reasons why cultures came up with these practices. By the way, what we discuss here doesn't really relate to our generations since we're fu@ked but rather hope some younger people can get some insight and form their own opinions.

Okay, twist things so you can avoid addressing my post. I also have a long-term "relationship" with my dentist, but I'm sure you knew that's not what I meant. Nice avoidance tactic.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Ugh. You focus on a couple nit-picky thing again and ignore the whole point. It's not even like a premise is false and that's what you're pointing out.
That's your definition and that's, again, not relevant to the point.

So, what if she had a long-term committed relationship, but they didn't sleep together? That's not breaking an agreement of "we're going to be together"?
I think being in long-term relationships actually gives people a more realistic understanding of what it means to be in a relationship and when they eventually wed, they'll have a less romanticized understanding of the work involved.
Realistic expectations are a very good thing. I think generally when people know what they're getting into when they make the decision to pursue it, they have better outcomes.

You have a long term relationship with your parents and I'm pretty sure you didn't sleep with either of them..... there are reasons why cultures came up with these practices. By the way, what we discuss here doesn't really relate to our generations since we're fu@ked but rather hope some younger people can get some insight and form their own opinions.